Fan rebuilding

[KJJ]

Originally Posted by TheKey

I turned to the college game because I have an alma mater to support. Not out of frustration to the Cowboys. I stopped posting here mostly due to the constant complaining about the performance of the team, and less to do about that actual performance. I have been a fan all of my life and can vividly remember the 5-11 days, and still never missed a game. I also continue to buy season tickets. No need to welcome me to any club.

You turned to the college game partly because you're frustrated with the Cowboys and you know it. You wouldn't have mentioned turning to the college game if it didn't have something to do with the play of the Cowboys. You just claimed a few minutes ago that you haven't been posting here due to your growing frustration with the state of things in Dallas. You're telling me it's the attitude and behavior of the "fans" that's frustrating you more than the performance of the team? It would take a pretty weak minded fan to allow the frustration of other fans to affect them more than the teams performance.

Until 4 days ago you hadn't posted on the board in 3 months. Like I said the attitude and behavior of the fans isn't going to change until the product on the field starts improving. You can't blame fans for being unhappy it's a depressing time for Cowboy fans watching the playoffs while the Cowboys are at home.

[FiveRings]

Originally Posted by TheKey

You think fans just happened to find a rat in their bag at the next game? Or is it possible that a few fans coordinated that idea and it grew? Everything starts somewhere...

Yeah granted it has to start some where but it never started with the intentions of it blowing up the way it did. And besides, we're just not a franchise that has a home crowd such as Seattle or Baltimore. Not dissing our fans but even Troy said that when they played back in the 90s the stadium was quiet but when they would go to Philly his ears were ringing.

What I'm saying is even when there is a product on the field worth getting excited about, it's never a cold weather, in the trenches big defensive stop we're excited about, it's a high flying offensive attack sort of team, which usually doesn't garner the raunchy fans

[Disturbed]

17 seasons of mostly mediocrity will usually cool down the fan base.

The Cowboys fans have been loyal and the owner has benefited. He makes more money off the Cowboys even when losing than other owners do with their teams.

The tradition we need to get back to is winning...not chanting etc... The Cowboys did not become America's Team by being mediocre or losing.

[ABQcowboyJR]

All it takes is a good idea and a little bit of clever marketing to start a tradition. I think its a great idea, start with the Bruce Lee chant on third downs.

[Disturbed]

Someone posted this fact the other day, and it still resonates.

"Since 1997 the Dallas Cowboys, Washington Redskins, and Detroit Lions are the only teams not to play in an NFC Championship Game."

Of the 3 listed, who is in the worst shape....least likely to change this fact any time soon.

[TheKey]

Originally Posted by KJJ

You turned to the college game partly because you're frustrated with the Cowboys and you know it. You wouldn't have mentioned turning to the college game if it didn't have something to do with the play of the Cowboys. You just claimed a few minutes ago that you haven't been posting here due to your growing frustration with the state of things in Dallas. You're telling me it's the attitude and behavior of the "fans" that's frustrating you more than the performance of the team? It would take a pretty weak minded fan to allow the frustration of other fans to affect them more than the teams performance.

Until 4 days ago you hadn't posted on the board in 3 months. Like I said the attitude and behavior of the fans isn't going to change until the product on the field starts improving. You can't blame fans for being unhappy it's a depressing time for Cowboy fans watching the playoffs while the Cowboys are at home.

Didn't post but viewed daily.

[Clove]

If Fans cheer and chant during a series of losing seasons, why would Jerry make changes to get better? Protesting, not purchasing tickets, not buying merchandise, things of that nature, is the only way to put pressure on the admin.

And as KJJ said, if you're winning, then the fans will get rowdy. Now, if you start to win, the it's up to Jerry to change the fan atmosphere of the stadium. You have to win first though. Once the tradition has started, it may continue if they start losing again.

[TheKey]

Originally Posted by Clove

If Fans cheer and chant during a series of losing seasons, why would Jerry make changes to get better? Protesting, not purchasing tickets, not buying merchandise, things of that nature, is the only way to put pressure on the admin.

And as KJJ said, if you're winning, then the fans will get rowdy. Now, if you start to win, the it's up to Jerry to change the fan atmosphere of the stadium. You have to win first though. Once the tradition has started, it may continue if they start losing again.

With all due respect, I think that's backwards Clove. By that logic we should have huge traditions due to the 90s. Jerry isn't making changes due to us being upset, he is doing it to win. Anyone who thinks he doesnt want to win is mistaken.

[Disturbed]

The business types who go to the games today due to the high cost will do the little golf clap. They are not the die hard fans of the Cowboys, so I doubt they will ever get into any chanting, etc...

Jerry has created this atmosphere by charging extremely high prices. He has practically made it an advantage for the opposition.

[Zaxor]

okay I will give it a go

Blue and Silver
Silver and Blue
Your team sucks
and so do you...


Cowboys, Cowboys
everyone's dream
but only one can claim
America's team

Cowboys Rock
Cowboys sing
while your team plays
with their own ding-a-ling

[Shinywalrus]

Originally Posted by Vanilla2

Sounds good but it will be made difficult with the corporate atmosphere.

What a cop-out. I cringe every time I see this.

[mmohican29]

Whatever happened to the simple...."DALLAS!!! .... COWBOYS!!!” stadium chant and the lone ranger kickoff songs?

[Zordon]

i like the BRUCE LEE idea.

or a simple BRUUUUUUUUUCE every time he makes a play sort of like how we had with MOOSE in the 90s. i've been waiting for a similar chant like that to return.

the thing is these players are not staying on the field long enough to establish a connection with the fans due to constant injuries. that and the fact that this defense refuses to make crucial stops on 3rd down and get turnovers demoralizes the spirit of the fans in the stadium. also i would like to see more personalty from our players, similar to what DEZ shows on nearly every play. scrap the RKG/robot philosophy, play with more EMOTION. where is the kenny gant or deion sanders or michael irvin personalty on this team that gets the crowd pumped up? other than dez there is nobody and unfortunately even dez has been scolded by the country club elites in our organization and fanbase to tone it down.

[KB1122]

Three letters: M L S.

I'm a soccer fan and supporters groups have been a major reason for MLS' growth. Seattle has a fan marching band. Philadelphia had a thousands-strong supporters' group before it had a team.

What I would like to see is for the team to clear out a section or two for standing and chanting. Populate it with people who wish to enjoy the game this way. Having a few sections leading the way will hopefully improve the atmosphere throughout.

TheKey, if you really want to do something about it (and this is a good start), find like minded individuals and go to the team as a season ticket holders and find ways to make it happen.

[LongSnapper]

Good point but really after 17 years of NOTHING what is there to cheer about. Jerry sold the soul of this team to the devil. He has done his best to tarnish good men and their legacy pay back is a _________