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Old 01-13-2013   #31
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That's what happens when you have some luck in late rounds, you begin to not put a premium on positions.

The reverse can also happen, if you get bitten once or twice, you can try to avoid it in the future.

Jerry is in love with the sexy pick, and there is nothing sexy about offensive line picks.

I'd love to draft 3 linemen in the first four rounds, and then another 2 next year. It's time to show Romo a true commitment.

With an oline and a running game, romo could play til he is 42. Add a defense and we will rack up championships.
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I really think we should take either Warmack or Cooper in the first and then either Barrett Jones, DJ Fluker or the best OT available in the 2nd. I wholeheartedly believe that our D is good enough to get by with what we have. We throw everything we have this off-season into fixing the O. Then, come back next year and throw everything at the D.
i'd probably start speaking in tongues if we were able to get warmack and fluker in the 1st two rounds. we'd finally get some size and GRIT back on the line. PLEASE get rid of that pansy doug free.

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O-linemen don't sell jerseys.

Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We are what we repeatedly do. - Aristotle
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O-linemen don't sell jerseys.
Maybe they should save money, then, and stop making O-Line jerseys.
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This is just historical revisionism. Our front 7 was thought to be a strength, with perhaps one weak link at 5T, when we drafted Claiborne. In the years prior, we have been dutiful about spending picks on both lines.

This has been debunked so many times it hardly bears mentioning. The problem isn't that we don't spend resources on linemen, it's that their record of panning out hasn't been as good as you'd like to see, in general.

Tell me about it. Our 2011 defensive front was a strength of the team. 7th in sacks and run defense.

Yet we had those who insisted major resources get allocated to it ahead of the Secondary and OL. Same dopes who hated franchising Spencer.
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i'd probably start speaking in tongues if we were able to get warmack and fluker in the 1st two rounds. we'd finally get some size and GRIT back on the line. PLEASE get rid of that pansy doug free.
I'm kinda with you. I'd like these guys as our 1st 2 picks.

I wouldn't mind a safety in the 2nd round either though.

I do think Barrett Jones has some upside. He did all he did and he just looks like a guy that hasn't come close to reaching his potential in the weight room.


So are you guys buying this? Sell out on 1 Line unit?

Or just keep trying to collect the best players at random positions?

Imagine our first 3 picks being Warmack, Fluker, then Khaled Holmes.
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I'm kinda with you. I'd like these guys as our 1st 2 picks.

I wouldn't mind a safety in the 2nd round either though.

I do think Barrett Jones has some upside. He did all he did and he just looks like a guy that hasn't come close to reaching his potential in the weight room.


So are you guys buying this? Sell out on 1 Line unit?

Or just keep trying to collect the best players at random positions?

Imagine our first 3 picks being Warmack, Fluker, then Khaled Holmes.
I think we need to find a balance. Guys like Coleman and Spears need to be weeded out this offseason too. It's up to the front office to find out which area can be addressed using free agency and which one thru the draft. It would help us a TON if matt johnson and jeremy parnell turned out to be players.

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If we get 1 quality OL in FA, and even use our 2nd rounder, for example, on another OL, we should have a pretty good OL (at least better than we've had in years). The key is to hit on that draft pick.
Exactly,, the draft doesnt end after the first round.

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I am on the 'Trenches + 1' plan, with the 1 being a dynamic free safety.

It is probably going to take us two off seasons to truly implement it. If we could acquire two starting OL, one DL and the safety this offseason I would be very happy.

Of course Jerry maybe of an entirely different mind...
The truth almost always lies somewhere in between...

Except on CZ.
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OL and DL are never bad ways to go.

JJ's been enamored with building the D from the back forwards (see all his failed attempts at CB's).

Build from the trenches.

Not rocket science.
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I think we need to find a balance. Guys like Coleman and Spears need to be weeded out this offseason too. It's up to the front office to find out which area can be addressed using free agency and which one thru the draft. It would help us a TON if matt johnson and jeremy parnell turned out to be players.
Agree with that.. We need to hit a random homerun somewhere.

Ronald Leary, Matt Johnson, or David Arkin would be nice.
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OLine first

this can be fixed THIS off-season. here's how:

go after the best FA OL that they can afford (restructure a few deals and get Long or some other good OL); then, use the first round pick on the best OL available when they select;

Then you have an OL of Long, Livings, Costa, (Insert 1st rounder), Smith...Free, if still on the team, battle for one of the Guard positions

DLine in the 2nd round

Grab Osi (if affordable)
Ware, Ratliff, Hatcher/Osi, Crawford/2nd rounder

if the team is healthy, then the D is in better shape to hide the DL deficiencies than the offense based on Carter, Lee, DB's...
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OLine first

this can be fixed THIS off-season. here's how:

go after the best FA OL that they can afford (restructure a few deals and get Long or some other good OL); then, use the first round pick on the best OL available when they select;

Then you have an OL of Long, Livings, Costa, (Insert 1st rounder), Smith...Free, if still on the team, battle for one of the Guard positions

DLine in the 2nd round

Grab Osi (if affordable)
Ware, Ratliff, Hatcher/Osi, Crawford/2nd rounder

if the team is healthy, then the D is in better shape to hide the DL deficiencies than the offense based on Carter, Lee, DB's...
Big NO on Long- he has been coasting on his rep the last couple of years and he has started getting nagging injuries
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OLine first

this can be fixed THIS off-season. here's how:

go after the best FA OL that they can afford (restructure a few deals and get Long or some other good OL); then, use the first round pick on the best OL available when they select;

Then you have an OL of Long, Livings, Costa, (Insert 1st rounder), Smith...Free, if still on the team, battle for one of the Guard positions

DLine in the 2nd round

Grab Osi (if affordable)
Ware, Ratliff, Hatcher/Osi, Crawford/2nd rounder

if the team is healthy, then the D is in better shape to hide the DL deficiencies than the offense based on Carter, Lee, DB's...
So, we are going to be able to free up enough money to sign Long and Osi?
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