Cowboys Are a Rudderless Ship

[cml750]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

That's the fan rallying cry this year. Teh Garrett sucks. He's holding back all our talent.

The truth is the play calling has nothing to do with why we don't win. A lack of talent does. At the most critical areas on the field.

Please don't tell me you actually think coaching only plays a little part in a team's success?

[Plankton]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

That's the fan rallying cry this year. Teh Garrett sucks. He's holding back all our talent.

The truth is the play calling has nothing to do with why we don't win. A lack of talent does. At the most critical areas on the field.

Criticizing playcalling is one of the most ridiculous things in the world. The coaches generally understand down, distance, personnel groupings and tendencies far better than anyone not associated with the team. Most of the complaints are due to the results, not the call per say.

The offensive line absolutely has impacted how Garrett can call a game. This needs to be addressed with talented guys who are scheme fits. When they drafted Smith, it appeared that they were going with a more mobile line profile, with Smith and Free being very good foot athletes. Then, last year, they add Livings and Bernadeau, neither of whom are good foot athletes. Adding players without considering the strengths of the entire unit is as bad as not addressing it at all.

[TwoDeep3]

Originally Posted by cml750

Please don't tell me you actually think coaching only plays a little part in a team's success?

Coaches are only as good as the talent they have on the field.

If they devise a plan and part of it requires a player to read and execute something specific, and they don't, then whose fault is it.

Or have you forgotten the Dez Bryant Tony Romo interception in the Chicago game where Dez broke off a route and Romo threw a pick.

Now I am not defending play calling by Garrett. I think he outright sucked. And I would imagine some of the best plays Dallas performed were due to Romo audibling at the line.

But to assume a coach has some magic wand that makes players play beyond their ability is a myth.

[5Stars]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

Coaches are only as good as the talent they have on the field.

If they devise a plan and part of it requires a player to read and execute something specific, and they don't, then whose fault is it.

Or have you forgotten the Dez Bryant Tony Romo interception in the Chicago game where Dez broke off a route and Romo threw a pick.

Now I am not defending play calling by Garrett. I think he outright sucked. And I would imagine some of the best plays Dallas performed were due to Romo audibling at the line.

But to assume a coach has some magic wand that makes players play beyond their ability is a myth.

Well, is that something that we already did not know?



Since the season is over, we don't know what coaches will be with the team yet. But, It would be good if the Cowboys do get an OC.

[Wolfpack]

The rudderless ship is exactly what Dallas is.

Post 1995, it has a .500 record. High turnover at all coaching spots. One of the lower drafting success rates in the NFL and always seaching for the new solution. No stability or team identity. The OP was correct.

The FO is going back to a Tampa scheme they forced on the DC back in 2002. Think about that. 10 years and 5 DC later and its full circle. Meanwhile, your drafts (which are normally poor) are nearly two DC's behind what you want to do. For example, by the time Wade go his "guys" in his system, he was fired. Lol. Ryan has to play with his system with Bills/Wades guys now he is gone after getting some corners to play his scheme.

[Holdenteller67]

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

The rudderless ship is exactly what Dallas is.

Post 1995, it has a .500 record. High turnover at all coaching spots. One of the lower drafting success rates in the NFL and always seaching for the new solution. No stability or team identity. The OP was correct.

The FO is going back to a Tampa scheme they forced on the DC back in 2002. Think about that. 10 years and 5 DC later and its full circle. Meanwhile, your drafts (which are normally poor) are nearly two DC's behind what you want to do. For example, by the time Wade go his "guys" in his system, he was fired. Lol. Ryan has to play with his system with Bills/Wades guys now he is gone after getting some corners to play his scheme.

That's our Jerry.

[links18]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

That's the fan rallying cry this year. Teh Garrett sucks. He's holding back all our talent.

The truth is the play calling has nothing to do with why we don't win. A lack of talent does. At the most critical areas on the field.

The fan rallying cry this year is that we will be just fine once Garrett gives up play calling. Now, it seems Jerry has even bought into it.

[Cowboyz88]

Originally Posted by links18

The fan rallying cry this year is that we will be just fine once Garrett gives up play calling. Now, it seems Jerry has even bought into it.

Of course he did. Never mind that HE fielded perhaps the worst OL in the league.

It's like as soon as he makes a decision, he regrets it or second guesses it.

He has the resolve of a 2-year old, or he's playing a game of problem-solving-whack-a-mole.

[TwoDeep3]

Originally Posted by 5Stars

Well, is that something that we already did not know?



Since the season is over, we don't know what coaches will be with the team yet. But, It would be good if the Cowboys do get an OC.

Read the quote in my post, Goober.

[CowboyRoy]

Originally Posted by theogt

This post is wholly without merit.

The team had a very clear identity and very clear direction for thhe past several years. The problem is it just didn't work. So they've changed directions on defense. I think if any coach in the history of defensive coordinators brings with him a "direction" and an "identity", it's Monte Kiffin.

The only real question right now is what's going to happen with the offensive coaching staff. And that's being worked out right now. You CANNOT say they do not have a direction or an identity, because you simply don't know what the direction is yet. They're mid-stream in the process of hiring and firing.

What you're experiencing right now is merely ignorance -- that is, ignorance of how this process will shake out.

LOL...........that was great for a laugh. LOL

Thanks for that one!

We had a plan and a direction, it just didnt work. LOL

Its time for you to face the music. This team is lost and flailing in the wind. Jones doenst know what he is doing, Garrett doesnt know what he is doing, our Oline is soo bad, its going to take several years of getting it right in order to fix it. By then, Romo will be toast and have nothing left. Witten and Ware will also be toast. With Jones not smart enough to find a young QB to groom before its too late, we will be stuck with Jones getting desperate once Romo is gone and throw ice cream against the wall and hoping it sticks. Most likely he will look around the NFL and see all these rookies making the playoffs and think he can have a rookie to do it too. He'll pull another Quincy Carter move and draft the wrong guy and hand him the keys to the franchise without ever earning it. We will spin in the wind for another 4 years before Jerry accepts its not right guy. Then he will go out and sign some veteran journeyman QB for a shortcut and that will be another two years wasted.

Welcome to Jerry's world.

Maybe by then Garrett will have learned how to coach. LOL

[jterrell]

We have a rudder, it is just stuck in a locked position aiming for dry land at max speed. If we can run aground and make it another 20 yards we'll hit open water and be fine.


Jerry listening to Lacewell is drove us to three consecutive 5 win seasons. IT was so bad Jerry gave Parcells power and authority to actually make football moves like hire people.

The day Lacewell left VR offered me so much hope.

To hear him being quoted now makes me want to climb a friggin bell tower.

[Vinnie2u]

Originally Posted by jterrell

We have a rudder, it is just stuck in a locked position aiming for dry land at max speed. If we can run aground and make it another 20 yards we'll hit open water and be fine.


Jerry listening to Lacewell is drove us to three consecutive 5 win seasons. IT was so bad Jerry gave Parcells power and authority to actually make football moves like hire people.

The day Lacewell left VR offered me so much hope.

To hear him being quoted now makes me want to climb a friggin bell tower.

We have a winner.

[dwight]

Originally Posted by jterrell

We have a rudder, it is just stuck in a locked position aiming for dry land at max speed. If we can run aground and make it another 20 yards we'll hit open water and be fine.


Jerry listening to Lacewell is drove us to three consecutive 5 win seasons. IT was so bad Jerry gave Parcells power and authority to actually make football moves like hire people.

The day Lacewell left VR offered me so much hope.

To hear him being quoted now makes me want to climb a friggin bell tower.

When I read that article about Lacewell I could not believe that. It's seems that this team is going back to those five win seasons.

Dallas fans have to hold Jerry accountable by hitting him in the pocket.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by cml750

Please don't tell me you actually think coaching only plays a little part in a team's success?

I think that our coaching is fine. I think we have no NFL talent at 4 of the 5 spots on our offensive line and no matter how frustrating that is as a fan, I can not check my brain at the door and just assume coaching can overcome that.

You need a talent base to work with. We don't have that there. No offense will hum in that situation. I don't care who the coach is.

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Plankton

Criticizing playcalling is one of the most ridiculous things in the world. The coaches generally understand down, distance, personnel groupings and tendencies far better than anyone not associated with the team. Most of the complaints are due to the results, not the call per say.

The offensive line absolutely has impacted how Garrett can call a game. This needs to be addressed with talented guys who are scheme fits. When they drafted Smith, it appeared that they were going with a more mobile line profile, with Smith and Free being very good foot athletes. Then, last year, they add Livings and Bernadeau, neither of whom are good foot athletes. Adding players without considering the strengths of the entire unit is as bad as not addressing it at all.

Good post. If Garrett was truly behind the OL additions last year, now there's a real reason to criticize him. I just can't know that considering the front office he deals with.

Complaints about play calling is a fan crutch. All fan bases do it. 90% of the time it's complete nonsense. Like refs cheating us.

Just give Garrett an average OL and you'd see one of the highest scoring offenses in the league on a yearly basis.