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Old 01-13-2013   #31
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John Lynch made a career out if this defense. Church is at least as athletic as Lynch. Pre injury of course.
I like Church but we need to remember the injury and not count on him like a guarantee.

We need trenches and safeties.
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He actually is very athletic, he can also cover (TEs) man to man. His weakness has been mental/instincts and trying to do too much when the other safety is subpar.
Agree.

Lack of athletic ability is not one of Sensabaugh's problems. He is only 29 and his combine numbers were in the Freak athlete range. His agility and explosiveness measureables were better than many Cornerbacks. He has one of the best Verts ever at the combine.

You can definitely question his mental/instincts and physicality, but not his athleticism.

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I dont get the Church fascination
I don't get the Matt Johnson love fest. Is he going to play from a wheel chair next year?
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I'm sorry, I'm still laughing at the first time you tried to argue in favor of our "experts."

Fact is we haven't had a decent safety here in 8 YEARS. Why in the world would I take these guy's word on anything, especially safeties?
They're experts, bro.

If you're rich enough to buy a hospital, you are an expert in medicine.

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I remember when those guys thought Alan Ball was the answer too.
You mean that guy who's going to the playoffs with the Texans?
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Is Matt Johnson a free safety? What are his combine numbers compared to an earl Thomas?
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if we get rid of sensabaugh and do nothing else, i will consider it a successful offseason.
Don't forget McCray, too.
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I don't get the Matt Johnson love fest. Is he going to play from a wheel chair next year?
Yep, hurt in college and then can even make it out of the trainers room his rookie year. To count on him is a reach.
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Don't forget McCray, too.
I believe McCray is a free agent.
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Sensabaugh rarely got targeted this year because he played a traditional FS role where McCray and the other guys played more in the box and got routinely abused.

We need safety depth, but I wouldn't be opposed to finding someone better than Sensabaugh either.
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I like Church but we need to remember the injury and not count on him like a guarantee.

We need trenches and safeties.
We've been in that mode for about 8 years. It's about time we really do something about it.
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He's pretty much the least physical starting S in the league. Nobody fears crossing the middle of our defense.
Easy fix is L Landry, I believe he is a FA and would work well in Tampa 2 and one would really think about a crossing route.
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I'm sorry, I'm still laughing at the first time you tried to argue in favor of our "experts."

Fact is we haven't had a decent safety here in 8 YEARS. Why in the world would I take these guy's word on anything, especially safeties?
are these the same experts who have built this wonderful Oline??
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Agree.

Lack of athletic ability is not one of Sensabaugh's problems. He is only 29 and his combine numbers were in the Freak athlete range. His agility and explosiveness measureables were better than many Cornerbacks. He has one of the best Verts ever at the combine.

You can definitely question his mental/instincts and physicality, but not his athleticism.
He will be 30 next season.

And as for athletic ability, this isn't the CB position where those measurables mean alot more and can decide his worth. Those instincts and physciality that you bring up are main components of a safety, along with his athletic ability.

I don't care if he can jump over a car if he doesn't want to tackle aggressively or lead this D.
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You mean that guy who's going to the playoffs with the Texans?
is he starting for them??

ill be sure to keep an eye out for them coming up.
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