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Old 01-13-2013   #31
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I don't expect much changes. This team has burned their salary cap with dumb contract after dumb contract. If we wanted Andy Levitre we should have drafted him instead of trading back with Buffalo in 09 to draft Robert Brewster.

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I don't expect much changes. This team has burned their salary cap with dumb contract after dumb contract. If we wanted Andy Levitre we should have drafted him instead of trading back with Buffalo in 09 to draft Robert Brewster.


.....more of the same with Al Jr. who always has considered himself the smartest guy in the room: maybe in the oil and gas industry, but NOT the NFL. History shows he's about the 31st smartest amongst GM's.
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.....more of the same with Al Jr. who always has considered himself the smartest guy in the room: maybe in the oil and gas industry, but NOT the NFL. History shows he's about the 31st smartest amongst GM's.
You mean the 32nd smartest GM in the league.
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.....more of the same with Al Jr. who always has considered himself the smartest guy in the room: maybe in the oil and gas industry, but NOT the NFL. History shows he's about the 31st smartest amongst GM's.
There were so many players available for us to draft in the 1st and 2nd round. They could write books about how stupid that draft was and how it set this organization back 2-3 years.

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I don't expect much changes. This team has burned their salary cap with dumb contract after dumb contract. If we wanted Andy Levitre we should have drafted him instead of trading back with Buffalo in 09 to draft Robert Brewster.
Dallas cap situation is fine after this year. They are, as of not almost 25 million under the cap for 2014 and 35 million in 2015.

If we want Levitre we can give him a big signing bonus and then keep his salary low for this year and big the next two years. You need to understand teams can structure contracts to work in their interest.
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For better or worse don't expect big changes along the OL. Costa will be the starting center and Parnell replaces Free. Smith and Livings stay. RG will be the only real change IMO
I'm guessing that we'll have three changes along the line fro what we saw for most of this year, two of which may be significant. I think Parnell will prove to be a significant upgrade from Free. I'd expect a RG in FA or the draft that should be an upgrade from Bernadeau. One of Costa or Killa would be an upgrade over Cook, who was a soldier but playing way out of position as about the 4th option at center this year. How much of an upgrade at center?...I'm going to choose to be optimistic here since I just don't expect anyone else being brought in.
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I don't expect much changes. This team has burned their salary cap with dumb contract after dumb contract. If we wanted Andy Levitre we should have drafted him instead of trading back with Buffalo in 09 to draft Robert Brewster.
I agree as far as not expecting a lot of changes either. I think a lot of this year will just be evaluation and figuring out the cap situation. I do think they cut Free, but I don't think they are going to draft a RT they feel comfortable starting opening day and we can't really afford a good one in FA.
We need wins, and that's all we need. I don't give a damn about anyone on this roster over wins. I'd trade Ware, Lee and Dez if it meant more wins.
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Dallas cap situation is fine after this year. They are, as of not almost 25 million under the cap for 2014 and 35 million in 2015.

If we want Levitre we can give him a big signing bonus and then keep his salary low for this year and big the next two years. You need to understand teams can structure contracts to work in their interest.
Where are you getting these numbers? Aren't you assuming a lot to get these numbers? We also will need to reup a few key young pieces the next few years. also romo is going to require a big payday as well if we decide to go that route.

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Where are you getting these numbers? Aren't you assuming a lot to get these numbers? We also will need to reup a few key young pieces the next few years. also romo is going to require a big payday as well if we decide to go that route.
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Also we can sign players and structure players contract how ever you meed too. What part about tjat does people not understand. Also we will be releasing other players.

That's how the cap works. Look at any player we sign. You do know how the cap and contracts work right.

We can sign Levitre to a 6 year 41 million contract with a 10 million signing bonus and 25 guaranteed.
First year salary can be 1 million and the signing bonus is prorated over 5 years. So in 2013 Levitre will only be a 3 million cap hit. In 2014 we will know our cap situation and can make his salary 4 million amd his cap hit will be 6 million. In 2015 we can make it 4 million salary again and be a 6 million cap hit. In 2016 his salary can be 6 million and will count 8 million against the cap. 2018 can be 7 Million salary and be 9 million against the cap. 2019 will be 9 million salary but no signing bonus proration. Now after 2016y all his guaranteed money is paid and can be cut in 2017 and only be a 4 million cap cut.
That's how contracts are dont in the NFL.

We can make room where we have 3 million on the cap.
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Brandon Moore (Jets)
Played 4 years for Callahan (assuming that Callahan is staying)
Played RG in Callahan's system which would put a veteran RG next to a young RT like Parnell.
Age 32 - Get a year or two out an expert in Callahan's system, while draft pick(s) are developing.
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I was also looking at Moore and Slauson.

Smith - Slauson - Rookie - Moore - Parnell/Rookie
In the final two months of 2011, Romo’s passer rating was 115.9.
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Dallas cap situation is fine after this year. They are, as of not almost 25 million under the cap for 2014 and 35 million in 2015.

If we want Levitre we can give him a big signing bonus and then keep his salary low for this year and big the next two years. You need to understand teams can structure contracts to work in their interest.
I agree that they probably have room (maybe a significant amount) to work under the 2013 cap after contracts are restructured; however, I think the 2014, 2015 numbers are low because they don't include a full team of players. For example, Romo currently has no contract for 2014; therefore his salary is not included in those numbers.

Of the 53 top paid players in 2012, 31 of them don't have contracts in 2014.

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