Preliminary contract talks w/Spencer begin

[Aven8]

Originally Posted by junk

Ha. I never got all spun up about the Romo wearing his hat backwards thing, but what is this? Why is he wearing a hat and a suit?

Starter doesn't make suits yet maybe....?

[xwalker]

The Strong Side DE tends to be bigger than Spencer (6-3, 250).

Even Dwight Freeney is 268 lbs.

Kevin Carter (6-5, 290) - 2008 Tampa Bay Bucs
Corey Wootton (6'6, 270) - 2012 Chicago Bears
Red Bryant (6-4, 323) - 2012 Seattle Seahawks

[tecolote]

Originally Posted by Wood

ultimately Dallas will have to decide on keeping Romo or Spencer. If you lock in both...dallas has very little wiggle room for a roster that has fair amount of holes to fill. Lee & Carters contracts are on the horizon. Dallas needs another DT and maybe safety on defense. On offense they need maybe two FA offensive lineman. They also need another RB to go with Murray. More importantly Spencer has his best season on his contract year (big red flag) and is on record as saying he was mailing it in at times last year. Dallas better have exit strategy if they sign Spencer.

If anything, extending Romo would create cap space to resign Spencer.

[Gemini Dolly]

Originally Posted by junk

Ha. I never got all spun up about the Romo wearing his hat backwards thing, but what is this? Why is he wearing a hat and a suit?

A couple of years ago, Tony was in a Jimmy Kimmel skit called "Handsome Mens Club." This clip is right after Jimmy said he was more handsome than Romo because Romo has big ears and that was the reason he can't get his hat on forward.

[Bowdown27]

Wow I'm honestly shocked that we are going to look at resigning him. I like spencer but at what cost is the biggest issue

[CowboysYanksLakers]

If they can sign him to a sensible contract do it... However the draft will have some nice players in it.

[RS12]

Originally Posted by dwight

Does Spencer fit Kiffin's scheme? That's my concern.

He is closer to 30 years of age as well as he might hurt Dallas from getting free agents from a cap situation.

Just my concerns.

Yep your whole argument versus creating a hole and having to fill another hole. All gonna come down to money.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by xwalker

The Strong Side DE tends to be bigger than Spencer (6-3, 250).

Even Dwight Freeney is 268 lbs.

Kevin Carter (6-5, 290) - 2008 Tampa Bay Bucs
Corey Wootton (6'6, 270) - 2012 Chicago Bears
Red Bryant (6-4, 323) - 2012 Seattle Seahawks

He is close r to 260 and putting on 5 lbs would not be that big of a deal probably. I am not an athletic trainer though so I could very well be wrong.

[Supercowboy1986]

Originally Posted by CowboysYanksLakers

If they can sign him to a sensible contract do it... However the draft will have some nice players in it.

What's a "sensible contract" amount?

[da_whiz_kid]

Is it possible Dallas looks to Spencer as SLB, With Lee at MLB, and Carter as WLB?

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

He is close r to 260 and putting on 5 lbs would not be that big of a deal probably. I am not an athletic trainer though so I could very well be wrong.

He can probably play the position; however, I would be concerned giving him a big contract or Franchising him at 10M to do it.

I thought Spencer was a must-retain in the Rob Ryan defense because they just didn't have anybody else that was a 3-tool player (i.e. run defense, pass-rush and coverage). The Kiffin SDE just needs to be a 2-tool player (i.e. run defense and pass-rush).

I do think that Spencer is a very good player and has been very underrated since he's been with the Cowboys.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by xwalker

He can probably play the position; however, I would be concerned giving him a big contract or Franchising him at 10M to do it.

I thought Spencer was a must-retain in the Rob Ryan defense because they just didn't have anybody else that was a 3-tool player (i.e. run defense, pass-rush and coverage). The Kiffin SDE just needs to be a 2-tool player (i.e. run defense and pass-rush).

I do think that Spencer is a very good player and has been very underrated since he's been with the Cowboys.

I disagree. He has steadily improved in the pass rushing department the last several years and has shown himself to be much better than average. Perhaps Rat and Hatch can generate good pressure in the middle or maybe not but two bookends plus rushers on the line go a long way towards making our defense elite.

A replacement whoever it may be might be serviceable but a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Teams always pick top rushers high and by 18 I expect it to be thin.

Teams like the Colts and Steelers follow this model and are successful and I think emulating consistent success is a good thing.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Bowdown27

Wow I'm honestly shocked that we are going to look at resigning him. I like spencer but at what cost is the biggest issue

... Which is why they are in preliminary talks. What part of preliminary talks means they are guaranteed to sign him?

[Beast_from_East]

Originally Posted by Wood

ultimately Dallas will have to decide on keeping Romo or Spencer. If you lock in both...dallas has very little wiggle room for a roster that has fair amount of holes to fill. Lee & Carters contracts are on the horizon. Dallas needs another DT and maybe safety on defense. On offense they need maybe two FA offensive lineman. They also need another RB to go with Murray. More importantly Spencer has his best season on his contract year (big red flag) and is on record as saying he was mailing it in at times last year. Dallas better have exit strategy if they sign Spencer.

Without Romo, it really doesnt matter who we have on defense......3 wins max.

[big dog cowboy]

Originally Posted by JPM

But Dallas has no cap room.

You really believe that?