Where our players fit in the Tampa 2

[Vinnie2u]

Would Jason Babin fit in as a DE? I don't know if he's a free agent but the eagles cut him. And someone else picked him up.

[da_whiz_kid]

Is it possible Dallas looks to Spencer as SLB, With Lee at MLB, and Carter as WLB?

[CATCH17]

Originally Posted by da_whiz_kid

Is it possible Dallas looks to Spencer as SLB, With Lee at MLB, and Carter as WLB?

No.. He'll make a lot more money as a DE / 3-4 OLB.

[ScipioCowboy]

If the Cowboys can find a free safety and three technique tackle this offseason, they will field top ten defense next season, even if they lose Spencer.

[da_whiz_kid]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

No.. He'll make a lot more money as a DE / 3-4 OLB.

True. Is it possible Spencer may be willing to take the pay cut so he can stay with his teammates? But more importantly, do you think his skills suit the position well? I think they do, but it's true, money is calling. It would be interesting becauuse they could probably move him from that position at times and rotate him with Ware.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by ScipioCowboy

If the Cowboys can find a free safety and three technique tackle this offseason, they will field top ten defense next season, even if they lose Spencer.

I agree on safety, and if we lose Spencer, Crawford could decide that. Kinda weird that the kid just drafted would determine so much, but if he is a 3 tech then our need there decreases with Hatch and Crawford. Now if Crawford can play DE and become an edge rusher, then our needs on the DL are still there but decrease slightly in the short term while still needing upgrades for the long term health of the position.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

If we don't keep Spencer then I would like to see Hatcher at the LDE and Ratliff at the 3. Then either sign a FA 1 or draft one really high. There is good DT depth in this draft especially at the top.

1. DT
2. OG/C
3. S
4. RB
5-7 absolute BPA outside of a kicker.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by rojan

What about from 2001-2007 when Kiffin had Greg Spires (6-1 265 lbs) and Simeon Rice (6-5 268 lbs) as his DE's

Or all the years that the Colts had Mathis (6-2 245lbs) and Frenney (6-1 268) as DE's

Strong Side
Spires 6-1, 265
Freeney 6-1, 268
Spencer 6-3, 250

Spencer is a strong run player and might be OK as an undersized player at the position; however, he is going to be very expensive.

Spencer's best fit would be on the Weak Side but that's where Ware will play.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

If we don't keep Spencer then I would like to see Hatcher at the LDE and Ratliff at the 3. Then either sign a FA 1 or draft one really high. There is good DT depth in this draft especially at the top.

1. DT
2. OG/C
3. S
4. RB
5-7 absolute BPA outside of a kicker.

I worry about Hatch out on the edge, its alot different than him rushing with Ware beside him, he will be out there all by himself at LDE. Even in the nickel he moved inside, and I just don't see the edge quickness, bend, and speed out of Hatch.

I would like to see us try everyone out there if we lose Spencer, heck we wouldn't have anyone for the position. Just don't know if Hatch can get that done especially at 305 pounds.

[xwalker]

2012 Bear's, 2012 Seahawk's and 2008 Buc's Front-7 players.

[Zordon]

thank you for that chart xwalker. you are an invaluable member of this forum.

[Manwiththeplan]

Originally Posted by xwalker

Strong Side
Spires 6-1, 265
Freeney 6-1, 268
Spencer 6-3, 250

Spencer is a strong run player and might be OK as an undersized player at the position; however, he is going to be very expensive.

Spencer's best fit would be on the Weak Side but that's where Ware will play.

fwiw, he's 257 and could easily play at 260 without it negatively effecting him

[honyock]

Originally Posted by Deep_Freeze

Yeah, the biggest winners in the new scheme might be Crawford and Wilber....very good coming out of this last draft to get two guys that fit so well.

Coverage is actually Wilber's best attribute, pass rushing was where he struggled which made him a bad fit in the 3-4. In the 4-3 at SLB, it should really fit his skill set well.....hopefully he steps up gives and Albright a run for his money.

I will say, I'm much more comfortable with Albright/Wilber starting over Coleman/Spears.....and it shouldn't be close for anyone and makes this scheme change actually make sense....now if we can actually get the safeties to run it effectively....

Yeah, I'm expecting a safety addition in either FA or the draft. If both Crawford and Wilber fit, that would make the 2012 draft look awfully good. And (I'm talking with 100% pure hope right now) if Johnson somehow works at safety, it'd be a VERY good draft. Right now I'm looking at Johnson as a lottery ticket - great if he hits, but don't bet the rent money on him.

[Deep_Freeze]

Originally Posted by honyock

Yeah, I'm expecting a safety addition in either FA or the draft. If both Crawford and Wilber fit, that would make the 2012 draft look awfully good. And (I'm talking with 100% pure hope right now) if Johnson somehow works at safety, it'd be a VERY good draft. Right now I'm looking at Johnson as a lottery ticket - great if he hits, but don't bet the rent money on him.

This team has had alot of success in finding DL later in the draft, and I expect the same from Crawford. Didn't really think much about Wilber til the scheme change cause of his lack of pass rushing skills, but now he can do what he does best with the new scheme.

Who knows what we have with Matt, I'm not a gambling man so I'm not risking any rent money but a $2 lotto ticket and I'm down....

[funkytown]

Originally Posted by Manwiththeplan

fwiw, he's 257 and could easily play at 260 without it negatively effecting him

I agree. Spencer is heavier than 250. He's 260, and strong as an ox.