You're Jason Garrett...

[DBOY3141]

I hope this was a Jason move. Just tired of all the "Jerry" antics. 17 years of misery is enough for me. We need to start winning and competing for Championships.

[erod]

Originally Posted by Hostile

I doubt it.

Even if he has to fire his brother?

I'm not saying a disagree with the organizational changes. I'm just trying to get into Garrett's head.

[goshan]

Kiffin was hired by both of them. I am sure Jason is good with it. But jerry pushed it, there is no doubt. They wanted to get the position filled - weren't going to wait around for Lovie. Also, the rumor is that Horton wasn't interested.

If you guys don't think Garrett isn't somewhat annoyed with JJ for talking all the smack in public about the changes he wants to make, without implying Garrett is leading them, you are mistaken and don't understand type A personalities.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Originally Posted by Hostile

I very highly doubt Jason Garrett is pissed off.

If he is not pissed off...he should be.

Two 8-8 seasons should piss off the HC.

Now that is not the context as to what the OP was saying would make him mad...but what I say is correct. If he is not pissed...he should be.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

Did you listen to the Lacewell interview?

No kidding. It's funny how people believe what they want even when it's contrary to the evidence.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by erod

True, but I'm really trying to put myself in Garrett's head.

On the second point, maybe, but using history as your guide, do you really think that?

Yes but you do so with a bias against jerry to start off with so really you are in Garrett head or just your own?

The 2nd point? None of the HC who have worked with Jerry have complained that it was too hard to work for Jerry or that he did not give them the things they needed to do the job. We blame Jerry and I have no issue with that he took on the role of GM and when the team does not win it falls on him but then people get upset when he makes moves that others make just as well?

I have no reason to think Jerry does not sit down and review the season and the job the coaching staff has done or that of the HC and looks at where we are going and what is the best approach to take. People may not like Jerry that is there right but frankly 32 other teams and their GM do the same things. It is not as different as people try to claim.

[erod]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

If he is not pissed off...he should be.

Two 8-8 seasons should piss off the HC.

Now that is not the context as to what the OP was saying would make him mad...but what I say is correct. If he is not pissed...he should be.

Sure, but when an 8-8 team goes 8-8, it kinda is what it is.

This team had no business in the playoffs given the o-line and injuries.

I believe the team is close, and I think Garrett thinks it's close, too. But it needs a KEY refining upfront first.

[SilverStarCowboy]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

If he is not pissed off...he should be.

Two 8-8 seasons should piss off the HC.

Now that is not the context as to what the OP was saying would make him mad...but what I say is correct. If he is not pissed...he should be.

How can a NFL Head Coach be such a tard he wears a smile on the sideline during a loss....WHAT IN THE FOG?!



Red J!

[erod]

Originally Posted by Doomsday101

Yes but you do so with a bias against jerry to start off with so really you are in Garrett head or just your own?

The 2nd point? None of the HC who have worked with Jerry have complained that it was too hard to work for Jerry or that he did not give them the things they needed to do the job. We blame Jerry and I have no issue with that he took on the role of GM and when the team does not win it falls on him but then people get upset when he makes moves that others make just as well?

I have no reason to think Jerry does not sit down and review the season and the job the coaching staff has done or that of the HC and looks at where we are going and what is the best approach to take. People may not like Jerry that is there right but frankly 32 other teams and their GM do the same things. It is not as different as people try to claim.

Have you ever heard of a GM hiring an OC before a head coach? And I'm not talking about retirement situations like Cowher where the team was already at championship level.

Campo, Gailey, and Wade didn't complain because there were ZERO teams looking to hire them as head coaches at the time they were hired.

[BrAinPaiNt]

Originally Posted by SilverStarCowboy

How can a Head Coach be such a ****** he wears a smile on the sideline during a loss....WHAT IN THE FOG?!



Red J!

Sometimes I have a weird smile on my face. Turns out sometimes when you have gas pains it makes your face look like you have a weird smile but truly it is just the pain making it look that way.

Maybe it is his version of pain that looks like a smile.

Or...maybe with Gingers being kind of weird it is something else altogether.

Who knows.

I just know that I doubt anyone truly knows (at this point) if JG is happy or mad about what is currently going on with the team concerning the coaching changes.

Could be he decided he wanted the new DC.
Could be Jerry Decided he wanted the new DC.
Could be Jerry decided first and later Jason decided that Jerry was right.

Who knows.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by erod

Have you ever heard of a GM hiring an OC before a head coach? And I'm not talking about retirement situations like Cowher where the team was already at championship level.

Campo, Gailey, and Wade didn't complain because there were ZERO teams looking to hire them as head coaches at the time they were hired.

I have seen many moves made by GM some I agree with some I don't. I do think out of the coaches named Campo had the least chance of success because I do think Jerry ran rough shot over Campo, yet with Wade?

I saw the guys that Wade brought in and I think he had quite a bit of say his down fall as normal was treating ball players like grown men expecting them to put in the work, and desire to win. Players liked him but the also quit on him.

[SilverStarCowboy]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

Sometimes I have a weird smile on my face. Turns out sometimes when you have gas pains it makes your face look like you have a weird smile but truly it is just the pain making it look that way.

Maybe it is his version of pain that looks like a smile.

Or...maybe with Gingers being kind of weird it is something else altogether.

Who knows.

I just know that I doubt anyone truly knows (at this point) if JG is happy or mad about what is currently going on with the team concerning the coaching changes.

Could be he decided he wanted the new DC.
Could be Jerry Decided he wanted the new DC.
Could be Jerry decided first and later Jason decided that Jerry was right.

Who knows.

Realistically everyone knows that Jason has proven to be in over his head, including Jerruhh....who has been sucking water for two decades.

I have a suggestion to keep you all occupied......learn to swim....see you down in Arkansas Bay.

[erod]

Originally Posted by SilverStarCowboy

Realistically everyone knows that Jason has proven to be in over his head, including Jerruhh....who has been sucking water for two decades.

I have a suggestion to keep you all occupied......learn to swim....see you down in Arkansas Bay.

Maybe, or perhaps he's just hamstrung because of the limitations of a bad offensive line and a defense that doesn't stand up at key moments.

Perhaps the team just wasn't ready yet.

[Zimmy Lives]

Originally Posted by erod

Maybe, or perhaps he's just hamstrung because of the limitations of a bad offensive line and a defense that doesn't stand up at key moments.

Perhaps the team just wasn't ready yet.

Perhaps this is a concept some cannot comprehend?

Until "Jerruh" realizes that playoff teams need solid lines built through the draft, the Cowboys will continue to hover around mediocrity.

[Sasquatch]

Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

There is no doubt in my mind that Kiffin was a Garrett hire.

If we hired Lovie, it would have been something Jerry was pushing for.

Garrett is very keen about having his authority come into question (which I don't blame him). If you hire Lovie or even a Ray Horton, you start to think that the guy next to you is in line to take over if the team fails. We know Kiffin has no chance of being the next HC and doesn't want to be either.

I think people are nuts if they really think this was a Jerry decision. I think they waited and sent out some feelers to see if Kiffin wanted to coach again and when he did, Rob was gone and Kiffin was hired.





YR

While this more be the more sensible interpretation of the situation, it's far less dramatic for those around here who crave drama, speculation, and conspiracy theory.