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01-13-2013
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#31
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The Dog that Saved Charleston
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Herriman, UT |
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He's going to bank this offseason. I don't think it will be with us.
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01-13-2013
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#32
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 2,159 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins
James Harrison got a 6 year $8m AAV deal in 2008. Lamar Woodley two years later got another 6 year deal with a $10m AAV.
It's the 4-3 OLB that don't get paid.
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True. But what has this to do with my post ? I never said anything different.
I compared the payment of 4-3 DE to the payment of 3-4 OLBs. And the later wont get the money the DEs get.
Stay positive. Stay focused. Keep smiling.
After all it's a process.

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01-13-2013
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#33
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The Boognish
Joined: | Jun 2004 |
Location: | Nowhereland |
Posts: | 13,851 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TwentyOne
True. But what has this to do with my post ? I never said anything different.
I compared the payment of 4-3 DE to the payment of 3-4 OLBs. And the later wont get the money the DEs get.
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Julius Peppers got a huge $15m AAV contract but Demarcus Ware got a 13m AAV contract 4 years before that. Given inflation and the like that's not a huge difference. If you are a top pass rusher it doesn't matter which front you play.
Both are HoFers and get paid like it.
In comparison Allen got a $12m AAV deal. It will be interesting to see what Miller, Smith and Matthew make over the next few years.
“Cynicism is nothing but intellectual cowardice.”
- Henry Rollins
Planning to fail is not the same as planning for failure.
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01-14-2013
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#34
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Injured Reserve
Joined: | May 2005 |
Location: | South Carolina |
Posts: | 10,851 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btcutter
Are you? Why do people ask other people to sacrifice their livelihoods?
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Sure would. I'd be playing for my favorite team and me staying to help the Cowboys win the SB would be worth it.
It is hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed.
-Theodore Roosevelt
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01-14-2013
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#35
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2005 |
Posts: | 11,474 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonJon
Is he willing to take a pay cut?
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His agent will answer this question as soon as he get up off the floor from laughing.

As the official head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, Jason Garrett is 16-16............"Its a Process of stacking good days"
2013 Prediction: "NO PLAYOFFS"
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01-14-2013
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#36
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All Aboard!!!
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 2,089 |
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Not sure I understand..
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Originally Posted by RS12
With what Spencer can make as a FA it is hard to imagine them paying him big money for a scheme that really doesnt fit what he does best.
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..your comment..really doesn't make a lot of sense.
..Spencer came from Purdue as a DE as a #1 pick. Whre had a 4-3. I think he can play it. Let him bulk back up and I think you still have a guy playing either a 4-3 or 3-4. Same thing with Ware. He also came from a 4-3.
This should be nothing but bonus for the new schemes.
 RedBaLL EXPreSS 
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01-14-2013
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#37
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Senior Member
Joined: | Aug 2005 |
Location: | Honeoye Falls Ne |
Posts: | 2,133 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RS12
With what Spencer can make as a FA it is hard to imagine them paying him big money for a scheme that really doesnt fit what he does best.
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I really believe the Skins will make a serious run at him.
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01-14-2013
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#38
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if you ain't first, you're last
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Lancaster Co. PA |
Posts: | 4,161 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki
If the Cowboys could retain Spencer, sign a decent guard, and a decent DT through FA, then I would retain him.
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This would be cool
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01-14-2013
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#39
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Moderator
Years Donated 2004, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 29,569 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LatinMind
hahaha, Spencer knows DE's command more money then OLBs. Of course he's willing.
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I'm not sure of this. LDE in a 43 usually don't command as much as Rush Ends do in a 43. Same for OLBs in a 34 but I don't know how the two compare. Would be interesting to see which is payed more.
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01-14-2013
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#40
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Posts: | 2,525 |
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I let Spencer walk and take that money and invest in two players (a starter and some depth). Spencer is 29 and we are moving to a 4-3, I'm willing to take the chance at 10M a year that he can play in Kiffin's 4-3.
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01-14-2013
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#41
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Intramural Legend
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Location: | Canandaigua, NY |
Posts: | 12,832 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfense
I really believe the Skins will make a serious run at him.
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GB makes more sense to me.
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01-14-2013
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#42
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Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | In a van down by |
Posts: | 2,213 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BaybeeJay
Seems silly to break the bank for a guy that will be unproven at the position. If you want to spend that type of money, might as well get someone more proven as a pass-rushing end.
Also, it would be in Spencer's interest to get to FA and go to a 3-4 team. That's where I see him getting the most money.
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If that was the case, then it's surprising that Spencer's agent would come out at this time of year (when ONLY the Cowboys can negotiate with him) and immediately state that Spencer could play DE and would be happy to do so.
This may not mean much, but my first reaction to this announcement by Woy is that Spencer would rather stay in Dallas than leave. This also means that he MIGHT be more willing to work a deal that Dallas can swallow.
He'll still get paid, but he might be willing to take less than top dollar inorder to stay here.
Maybe he just likes where he lives and doesn't feel like moving? Sounds that way to me, and thats a good thing for us.
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01-14-2013
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#43
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Captain Comeback
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Posts: | 1,057 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dfense
I really believe the Skins will make a serious run at him.
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Would the Skins have cap room with their big cap penilty ?
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01-14-2013
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#44
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iPhotoshop
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Posts: | 5,684 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY
I'm not sure of this. LDE in a 43 usually don't command as much as Rush Ends do in a 43. Same for OLBs in a 34 but I don't know how the two compare. Would be interesting to see which is payed more.
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you take into consideration who the player is. The top LDE's still command more than OLBs. And with Spencers '12 yr you can bet he's going to be put into that category by his agent. And im sure he'll get soemthing a little lower than what he asks. Its still going to be between 55-60 mil. Thats too much for Dallas
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01-14-2013
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#45
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
Joined: | Feb 2008 |
Location: | Dallas |
Posts: | 16,932 |
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I think the average salary for a 4-3 DE is more than the average for a 3-4 OLB.
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