Eatman: Jones Explains Statements On Seattle and Chicago Games

[FuzzyLumpkins]

“When you look at the context of my answer to that question, you’ll see that I never got into specifics about one side of the ball or the other in that response,” said Jones. “I was talking about our team’s performance as a whole in those games, where we pretty much had our full complement of starters on both sides of the ball.”

The Cowboys spotted Seattle 10 points back in Week 2, thanks to a fumble on the opening kickoff that resulted in a field goal and then a blocked punt returned for a touchdown. The Seahawks used the early lead to cruise to a 27-7 win. Two weeks later against the Bears, the Cowboys turned the ball over six times, including five interceptions, two of which were returned for touchdowns in a 34-18 loss.

http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/ar...d-af2929535a23

Remember the part where I said the whole team was healthy for the Seattle game and I said only Church was out for Chicago? Remember where I said that the defense or Rob Ryan were never mentioned?

Yeah I am patting myself on the back, but sometimes you have to shove a dogs nose in the feces to get the message across.

So who is going to be the first to claim that Jones and Eatman are lying?

[JoeyBoy718]

Yea, the offense and defense were underperforming early in the season when everyone was healthy. The only thing I give Rob Ryan credit for is having the defense play more inspired later in the season when they were decimated by injuries. But that doesn't mean that he had them playing well when they were healthy. People kept saying at the end of the season, "Imagine how good we'd be if everyone was healthy." But they forgot how bad we were when everyone actually was healthy.

[theogt]

I don't understand what's going on here.

[PA Cowboy Fan]

So the defense played better as the year went on and Ryan got fired. The offense stayed awful and Garrett stays. I get it.

[JoeyBoy718]

Originally Posted by PA Cowboy Fan

So the defense played better as the year went on and Ryan got fired. The offense stayed awful and Garrett stays. I get it.

Well, Ryan had an under talented defense playing more inspired at the end of the year. This is true. But that doesn't mean that Ryan had the starters playing up to their potential. How he coaches scrubs is irrelevant. How he coaches stars is relevant.

[Doomsay]

I'm confused about the dog nose bit.

[dwmyers]

Reams of nonsense thrown at a problem usually suggest that the reams of nonsense exist because the problem is elsewhere.

Happens all the time when programming code. Hundreds of idiot explanations of the problem when in fact, you missed a comma, quote, or semicolon.

Those people who suggest that perhaps Jones and Garrett watched a defense being played in a style they didn't like and that prompted the firing, are probably closer to the mark than anyone paying any attention to the stuff coming out of Jerry's mouth.

Those suggesting similarities to Chan Gailey are probably closer to the truth than trying to parse Jerry's semblance of logic. At some innate level it wasn't a fit. That they went out and picked up someone whose defensive philosophy is relatively easy to understand, consistent, and relies on execution somehow dovetails with those Coryell based concepts (Garrett as a 21st century Norv Turner) from the 1990s, where great execution is at the heart of the offense.

I also can't help but think perhaps a brag was in all of this: maybe -- this is pure speculation on my part -- Rob promised a winning defense if they just got him his cornerbacks, and rather than rebuild the offensive line, they went cheap on it when they knew the consequences of doing do.

And when Rob's end of the bargain failed, they lost patience in him.

Just thoughts, trying to keep it simple.

D-

[Doomsay]

Originally Posted by dwmyers

I also can't help but think perhaps a brag was in all of this: maybe -- this is pure speculation on my part -- Rob promised a winning defense if they just got him his cornerbacks, and rather than rebuild the offensive line, they went cheap on it when they knew the consequences of doing do.

Yes, plus 3 man rushes.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by PA Cowboy Fan

So the defense played better as the year went on and Ryan got fired. The offense stayed awful and Garrett stays. I get it.

No it didn't. The scoring defense and turnovers generated were last in the league over the home stretch. Excuse me, St Louis was worse by .1 points.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by theogt

I don't understand what's going on here.

The comments being referred to are Exhibit A of the Jones emasculating Garrett by not allowing his to choose his own staff. IE that this was supposedly Jones' rationale in the firing.

I have just been told that I was obtuse because I felt that the statements did not imply that. Plus I am stirring the pot.

[LongSnapper]

Remember that Cincinnati game, when the spawn of Buddy walked out on the field for a 15 yarder thats not part of the process.

[Super_Kazuya]

It's good to have the clarification, but for me it changes nothing. I see the two games as no brainer losses; Jerry feels like they should have won. I see this team as a 4-12 club brought up to 8-8 on the backs of a few good players, coaching, and plain old luck; Jerry sees it as a 12-4 team dragged down to 8-8 by coaching.

[links18]

Originally Posted by Super_Kazuya

Jerry sees it as a 12-4 team dragged down to 8-8 by coaching.

But the head coach/offensive coordinator whose offense stunk most of the year and has been a Keystone Cop act since he took over stays, while the defensive coordinator playing with street FAs gets canned?

[LarryCanadian]

I drove down to the SeaHawks game - a game our beloved Dallas team had 10 days to prepare for IIRC.

That was the worst coached game by this team I have ever seen. Everyone was confused on offense (yes the noise was a huge factor and Witten had his worst game as a Cowboy probably).

I am totally in favour of the firing of Ryan based on that game alone. What you couldn't see on TV (I watched the taped version the next day) is just how terrible our defensive scheme and substitutions were that game.

We often, I mean OFTEN had too few or too many players on the field at various times of the game on defense. The safeties had NO idea - Sensi looked lost as to how to direct DB's back there.

Spencer barely made it on the field a couple times, and even got his sack because he either ran onto the field late and had a free rush from way outside or it was the only "clever" play of the game. I think we even gave up a key 3rd down with too many men on the field that game - with one guy running off late.

Was terrible to watch the confusion on the sideline. There I sat with my Ware jersey and got heckled and heckled.

Now, Felix Jones and the Special Teams didn't look ready to play football either (which is coaching too - Felix should never have been returning kicks and wasn't anywhere close to being in shape at that point of season).

The game plan to not rush a rookie QB in his 2nd game was baffling. Ware was pretty darn quiet, but still made a couple plays. Lee tried. Carter hadn't broken out yet. Lynch ran over our backs.

Our tackling was dreadful especially by safeties and DB's and interior line.

Remember, this was after we looked quite motivated and executed well the game against the Giants. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde for sure.

I like Ryan's emotional energy and that is it. I don't think he's creative at getting pressure, or good with the details. I don't think he got the most out of the starters.

You could really see the shortcomings from the coaches on the sideline - stuff you couldn't see on the TV images. Was BRUTAL to watch.

[Eric_Boyer]

Originally Posted by PA Cowboy Fan

So the defense played better as the year went on and Ryan got fired. The offense stayed awful and Garrett stays. I get it.

first half of the year we scored 28+ points once. 1 out of 8 times.

Second half of the season, we did it 4 times. 4 out of 8 times.


first half of the season we scored under 20 points 5 out of 8 times

second half of the season, we scored under 20 points 1 out of 8 times

So you were saying?