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Old 01-15-2013   #31
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And how exactly is Garrett coaching the offensive stars?


If we are going to say the defensive starters played like crap so Ryan gets fired, then why does Garrett stay when the offensive starters played like crap?

No way Ryan can get canned for his unit not performing when Garrett's unit didnt perform either and it is nothing but scapegoating. Both the DC and the OC should share the blame and both be fired.

I have not seen the OC fired, the only guy on the entire offense to get fired was the RB coach when we had the fewest rushing attempts in the 52 yr history of the team, seriously?
Completely agree with you. Not to mention JG has been in charge of the play calling for 7 years now and it is still predictable//Vanilla. I don't think a lot of us are upset that Ryan is gone, we are upset that JG isn't gone. He was more deserving of getting fired than Ryan was. They both should have been fired and we should have never even considered old man Kiffin. A blow up is coming...
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Old 01-15-2013   #32
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Mickey asked a question about injuries, referring specifically to the defense, and how that factors in.

Jerry answered with Chicago and Seattle being games he didn't particularly like prior to injuries so there's no excuse.

Now Jerry's saying he meant it as a broad statement about the team.
Not sure if I saw the entire interview and follow up. But, while the talking heads were discussing Jerry's comments, they were playing background footage of the Seattle and Chicago games. Thing is, they only played unflattering defensive footage from those games. It seemed kind of strange that they wouldn't have shown some of the ints in the Chicago game - the whole thing looked pretty staged with somewhat of a defensive bias..
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Old 01-15-2013   #33
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http://www.dallascowboys.com/news/ar...d-af2929535a23

Remember the part where I said the whole team was healthy for the Seattle game and I said only Church was out for Chicago? Remember where I said that the defense or Rob Ryan were never mentioned?

Yeah I am patting myself on the back, but sometimes you have to shove a dogs nose in the feces to get the message across.

So who is going to be the first to claim that Jones and Eatman are lying?


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Old 01-15-2013   #34
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I don't understand what's going on here.
Neither do I , or Jerry Jones, or 85% of the fanbase.
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I agree with this. That was most likely the turning point for both Jerry and Garrett. I would have slapped him and I like Rob.
I agree, I think it was a bigger factor in letting him go than most realize. It was embarrassing.
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I agree, I think it was a bigger factor in letting him go than most realize. It was embarrassing.
Lot's of frustration and friction from Ryan over the course of the season. Some may be understandable, but an HC and GM can't have a mutiny going on right under their noses.
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Completely agree with you. Not to mention JG has been in charge of the play calling for 7 years now and it is still predictable//Vanilla. I don't think a lot of us are upset that Ryan is gone, we are upset that JG isn't gone. He was more deserving of getting fired than Ryan was. They both should have been fired and we should have never even considered old man Kiffin. A blow up is coming...
It's coming but not for another year.
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Reams of nonsense thrown at a problem usually suggest that the reams of nonsense exist because the problem is elsewhere.

Happens all the time when programming code. Hundreds of idiot explanations of the problem when in fact, you missed a comma, quote, or semicolon.

Those people who suggest that perhaps Jones and Garrett watched a defense being played in a style they didn't like and that prompted the firing, are probably closer to the mark than anyone paying any attention to the stuff coming out of Jerry's mouth.

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I also think that Rob probably wasn't a Type A details oriented type of person, and they didn't trust him in a situation where he was the de-facto "head coach" of the defense given carte blanche over his unit. He's better off in a situation like the Rams where there are other high ranking defensive voices in the room who can micromanage him a little bit.

Despite labeling myself a "realist", no one understands my pain or appreciates my special truth. Stupid world.
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Not sure if I saw the entire interview and follow up. But, while the talking heads were discussing Jerry's comments, they were playing background footage of the Seattle and Chicago games. Thing is, they only played unflattering defensive footage from those games. It seemed kind of strange that they wouldn't have shown some of the ints in the Chicago game - the whole thing looked pretty staged with somewhat of a defensive bias..
The defense didn't play well in those games. The Bears had their hands tied with a hobbled Matt Forte, but they managed to just throw it to Brandon Marshall at will even though everyone in the stadium knew that was his only weapon. (7 catches, 138 yards on only 8 targets).

In the Seattle game, Seattle's offense just imposed their will on our defense and kept Dallas' offense off the field. Dallas managed to pull within 13-10 early in the 3rd quarter with the game very much in reach. Then the defense allowed Seattle a 90 yard TD march. Then Seattle followed that up with an 88 yard/12 yard/8 minute TD drive. Seattle then got the ball again and ate up the entire 4th quarter with one final drive before giving the ball back to Dallas with 36 seconds left.

Despite labeling myself a "realist", no one understands my pain or appreciates my special truth. Stupid world.
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I drove down to the SeaHawks game - a game our beloved Dallas team had 10 days to prepare for IIRC.

That was the worst coached game by this team I have ever seen. Everyone was confused on offense (yes the noise was a huge factor and Witten had his worst game as a Cowboy probably).

I am totally in favour of the firing of Ryan based on that game alone. What you couldn't see on TV (I watched the taped version the next day) is just how terrible our defensive scheme and substitutions were that game.

We often, I mean OFTEN had too few or too many players on the field at various times of the game on defense. The safeties had NO idea - Sensi looked lost as to how to direct DB's back there.

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It was after that game that I began to really doubt Red Ball. He had 10 days to get the team ready to play and they stank it up all around. To me that is on the coaches. Especially the HC.
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