Pearson - John Garrett applied for the Delaware HC job

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by visionary

just facts, no spin

Jason Garrett:

8-8 to 8-8
maybe that is your kind of "process"

John Garrett:

please dont insult everyone by crediting him for witten who was an all-pro before john ever showed up

phillips has regressed
hanna is all potential and very little production

Ahh yes now back to this. Appeal to ridicule and confirmation bias.

Phillips tore up his knee and Hannah made plays as a rookie. And don't insult everyone by pretending that Witten just ignored Garrett or that he wasn't coaching him.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by Wolfpack

I would say that the team racked up passing yards as a result of:
1. Being behind most every game.
2. Slow starting offense / base offense performing poorly.
3. Ranked 31st in rushing yards / low rushing attempts.
4. Having to pass to overcome 3-15 type situations due to sacks/penalites.

I think the offense under JG has been pass heavy since he took over as OC and thus puts up yards. Yards dont equal points. Its like chrome on a car looks nice doenst win races.

[View Full Quote]I dont think anyone feared the Dallas offense this year, at all and I really dont think any fears the JG offense period. He is very predictable in what he is and isnt going to do. If the players can execute his simple plan, they can win but the other coaches get paid too and they can take away what he wants to do and JG ends up with no answer (generally) for that. Add in his game management blunders and you get 8-8. Fix the game management OR the play calling and I think you get playoffs out of that team.

Sure that's why I listed YPA.

[Galian Beast]

Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

Ahh yes now back to this. Appeal to ridicule and confirmation bias.

Phillips tore up his knee and Hannah made plays as a rookie. And don't insult everyone by pretending that Witten just ignored Garrett or that he wasn't coaching him.

Phillip's regression goes way passed coming back from injury...

As for Hanna, he was tied for 3rd among rookie tight ends in receptions with 8, 4th in yards, 0 tds.

His development was nothing special so far.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He was hurt 3 years ago in TC before his second year. I am not sure what you mean by regressed. It's not like he was more than a promising prospect before he got hurt. He is not nearly as quick as he used to be.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So now a 6th rounder being a top 5 rookie who plays behind Jason Witten isn't good? You guys are unbelievable.

[SilverStarCowboy]

Originally Posted by Bowdown27

Haha this is too funny

Yeh who wouldn't want a pay cut.

[visionary]

[quote=FuzzyLumpkins;4968343

Phillips tore up his knee ...[/quote]

the fact that you bring up an injury that occured 3 SEASONS back should tell us you dont have a leg to stand on in this argument

since then, in 2 seasons where he was healthy, under the astute guidance of his TE coach (John Garrett BTW) john phillips has gone on to produce

2011: 16 games, 15 receptions for 101 yards @ 6.3 yards/game
2012: 15 games, 8 receptions for 55 yards @ 3.7 yards/game

yep, i hope John Garrett has this little tidbit on his resume as he tries to fend off all the teams that are knocking on his door for coaching positions

[visionary]

Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

He was hurt 3 years ago in TC before his second year. I am not sure what you mean by regressed. It's not like he was more than a promising prospect before he got hurt. He is not nearly as quick as he used to be.

nice backtrack

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by visionary

nice backtrack

What on Earth are you talking about? What year are you saying he regressed from? Like I said I have no idea what you are talking about.

It's not like I didn't say that he wasn't injured. You really going to try and argue that he was better two years ago than he was this year?

Cause his rookie year he was hurt and the year after he came back from injury he was still stiff and not moving well. I don't see why you think he peaked two years ago.

[dogberry]

Wasn't Phillips involved in a play where the defender had to choose between guarding the TE or Tony?

It was one of my favorite plays of the year, but how many passes was this offense going to throw to the TE position?

Should we throw to Hanna or Phillips, or throw to Witten?

Toby Gerhart should complain about Minnesota using Peterson too much.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So lets sum up.

WE passed with a very good YPA but he gets no credit for that despite being passing game coordinator.

Witten had his best year and he gets no credit for that despite being his coach.

Phillips somehow was better two years ago than he was last year on what basis I have no idea.

Hannah, a 6th rounder, being one of the more productive TE's in his class and seemed to solve the drop problems he had at OU that means nothing.

[CATCH17]

Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

So lets sum up.

WE passed with a very good YPA but he gets no credit for that despite being passing game coordinator.

Witten had his best year and he gets no credit for that despite being his coach.

Phillips somehow was better two years ago than he was last year on what basis I have no idea.

Hannah, a 6th rounder, being one of the more productive TE's in his class and seemed to solve the drop problems he had at OU that means nothing.

So he was the idiot that kept calling sideline passes when the middle of the field was open all night against Washington?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

So he was the idiot that kept calling sideline passes when the middle of the field was open all night against Washington?

We both know who the playcaller was. I'm just saying what his duties were and how the performances were.

[CATCH17]

Originally Posted by FuzzyLumpkins

We both know who the playcaller was. I'm just saying what his duties were and how the performances were.

I honestly have no idea if the guy is a good coach or not. Heck I could coach Witten and he would still be an All Pro.

There was talk that Hannah was a little slow picking up the offense. I'm not sure who thats on.


Like CL, i've heard that he isn't very well liked at Valley Ranch. I don't know the reasons for him not be very well liked. I think there was speculation that his brother listens to him a lot more than people think he should.


Whatever though. If Garrett thinks his brother gives him the best opportunity for success than I guess im all for it next season. I'd like no excuses for these Garrett's if we have another lethargic performance with our offense.

I'm sure having a new Defensive Coordinator will probably end up being the excuse though.

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by Galian Beast

I don't care about cronyism if it isn't creating a problem... If we're winning super bowls, hire your 3rd cousin's pediatrist for all I care.

It isn't creating a problem now. What problem do you see? Please don't say 8-8, or 16 years blah blah blah, because those are results, not problems. Tell me what his brother being on the staff damages that is not happening in other NFL locations. Educate me.

Bottom line, you're mad and grasping at straws trying to find one to be mad at. This is plain silly. Either you hate "cronyism" and make it universal, or you are mad and looking for anything, no matter how petty, to fuel the anger.