Valley Ranch is a Mess

[Aven8]

Originally Posted by links18

Was it ugly when he canned Campo and hired Parcells?

Nope. Outside of winning SB's that was the best day I can remember as a fan.

[noshame]

Don't worry, Jerry's kids will have this thing spun into a superbowl win for sure! They've become very good in the last..what...17 years?

No worries at all.

Right now it's hey, it's only been a few weeks...

Next it's, don't worry about the draft, FA is coming up!

Next...Hey we sure fixed the OL didn't we, playoffs!

But...it's only pre-season...

Insert your personel favorite here.

[ShiningStar]

Originally Posted by Frozen700

Is this the part where we panic?

Order will spring from chaos. This is why PR people were created.

[Zimmy Lives]

Originally Posted by Shinywalrus

Change never looks pretty, never looks clean. What were you expecting? Let the dust settle and then evaluate what was knee-jerk, what was worthwhile, what was window-dressing.

Right now we don't have enough information and we're responding to the natural appearance of change, which is always ugly.

This.

Some may choose to look at this off-season as a time of turmoil but, as the eternal optimist, I'd like to think that something positive will come out of it.

[Chocolate Lab]

Well... Yeah. A complete mess.

This is what happens when someone (Jerry) tries to hire and fire people piecemeal to save face and money.

This is the most profitable team in the country and Jerry runs it like the Bills or Jags. So irritating.

[AbeBeta]

Wow. Seems like some pretty normal coaching staff changes after a couple of .500 seasons.

[egn22]

the 8-8 part was the mess to me. all of the other stuff we're seeing now is a result of the media providing fodder for cowboys fans. i don't think its a mess, i think its more like change you would expect after a team consistently under performs.

Personally, i've wanted us to switch to a 4-3 for a long time now, and I'm excited about the switch.

I've wanted Jason to relinquish play calling duties for a long time, and its looking like this is about to happen.

I've wanted to see what Ratliff could do in a system that doesn't require him to line up over the center and this looks like it could happen.

I don't want to lose Spencer and we're in negotiations with him right now.

If we somehow decide to draft a few solid o linemen, and a safety, and maybe sign a decent free agent for one of our positions of need, I will give the off season an A.

A mess to me would be if we kept everything the same and doubled down on the same losing strategies that got us here. Sometimes I think the media try too hard to convince the fans that the world is coming to an end and that the Cowboys are in trouble. We're still competing, and we're still positioning ourselves to make a playoff run. we just need to get over the hump, and hopefully some of these changes will get us there.

I know Jerry as GM.... blah blah blah, he's terrible, he's horrible, he's an idiot.... blah blah blah, but he's our GM and isn't going anywhere.

[CIWhitefish]

Originally Posted by noshame

Don't worry, Jerry's kids will have this thing spun into a superbowl win for sure! They've become very good in the last..what...17 years?

No worries at all.

Right now it's hey, it's only been a few weeks...

Next it's, don't worry about the draft, FA is coming up!

Next...Hey we sure fixed the OL didn't we, playoffs!

But...it's only pre-season...

Insert your personel favorite here.

You can do the same thing from a negative perspective...

Jerrah as GM should be fired

Romo can't win a must win game...CHOKER!

RHG can't coach a paper bag to fold

Point I'm making is the truth is in the middle. Things aren't all sunshine and roses but things aren't completely falling apart either. Every single move Dallas makes does not have to be either the best or the worst.

[Idgit]

How many years in a row are we going to sit around and watch how moves get made in the NFL, look at half the picture, and conclude that it's the team that's clueless when the reality is that the changes are in process and we just have to wait to see what the plan actually is in the first place?

We go through this with the coaching changes. We go through it with veteran free agency. We go through it with college free agency. Each time, the team's plan becomes clear and we realize we were complaining for no reason other than we didn't know in advance what they were up to. Countless threads about how we don't have a plan, when, in reality, we always--obviously--do.

Just sit tight and see what happens. Then, complain all you want. You guys aren't going to like whatever the plan is, anyway, and you've got a long off season to tell us about it.

[egn22]

Originally Posted by Idgit

How many years in a row are we going to sit around and watch how moves get made in the NFL, look at half the picture, and conclude that it's the team that's clueless when the reality is that the changes are in process and we just have to wait to see what the plan actually is in the first place?

We go through this with the coaching changes. We go through it with veteran free agency. We go through it with college free agency. Each time, the team's plan becomes clear and we realize we were complaining for no reason other than we didn't know in advance what they were up to. Countless threads about how we don't have a plan, when, in reality, we always--obviously--do.

Just sit tight and see what happens. Then, complain all you want. You guys aren't going to like whatever the plan is, anyway, and you've got a long off season to tell us about it.

exactly. and when the first kickoff is about to take place, everyone is right there watching. pom poms in hand, with real hopes that Monte Kiffin will turn this unit into the 1992 Cowboys.
I'm already in full support of Monte just because of the age bias everyone in the media has toward him.

[1fisher]

Originally Posted by Idgit

How many years in a row are we going to sit around and watch how moves get made in the NFL, look at half the picture, and conclude that it's the team that's clueless when the reality is that the changes are in process and we just have to wait to see what the plan actually is in the first place?

We go through this with the coaching changes. We go through it with veteran free agency. We go through it with college free agency. Each time, the team's plan becomes clear and we realize we were complaining for no reason other than we didn't know in advance what they were up to. Countless threads about how we don't have a plan, when, in reality, we always--obviously--do.

Just sit tight and see what happens. Then, complain all you want. You guys aren't going to like whatever the plan is, anyway, and you've got a long off season to tell us about it.

Amen!

[MathewSK81]

Originally Posted by AbeBeta

Wow. Seems like some pretty normal coaching staff changes after a couple of .500 seasons.

This.

I get to see a real mess up close here in Arizona.

[HoustonFrog]

Originally Posted by Idgit

How many years in a row are we going to sit around and watch how moves get made in the NFL, look at half the picture, and conclude that it's the team that's clueless when the reality is that the changes are in process and we just have to wait to see what the plan actually is in the first place?

We go through this with the coaching changes. We go through it with veteran free agency. We go through it with college free agency. Each time, the team's plan becomes clear and we realize we were complaining for no reason other than we didn't know in advance what they were up to. Countless threads about how we don't have a plan, when, in reality, we always--obviously--do.

Just sit tight and see what happens. Then, complain all you want. You guys aren't going to like whatever the plan is, anyway, and you've got a long off season to tell us about it.

1) I didn't use the word clueless...I said its a mess

2) As for a plan in place...that was my point. At this time you have to wonder what plan was in place. The dominos started to fall with the Skins loss. IMO..which is what this board is for..I just think this is more piecemeal than really thought out...like hiring Garrett before Wade. I'm not seeing the rhyme or reason.

As I have always said, if it works out, great. If not, well, we saw it coming. It's not like I'm going all doom and gloom. Just seems messy.

As for your last sentence..that mindset here is getting old quick. There is such thing as having an independent, objective view without being so far on one side or another. You can actually step back and view the landscape without being a homer one way or another. As I've said, I'm middle of the road with Jerry, like Romo and don't like Garrett so its not like I'm in some mold of just being a contrarian. It would make the board much more enjoyable...as stated in the new rules...if people just read, gave an opinion and did so without labeling.

[Doomsday101]

Originally Posted by HoustonFrog

1) I didn't use the word clueless...I said its a mess

2) As for a plan in place...that was my point. At this time you have to wonder what plan was in place. The dominos started to fall with the Skins loss. IMO..which is what this board is for..I just think this is more piecemeal than really thought out...like hiring Garrett before Wade. I'm not seeing the rhyme or reason.

As I have always said, if it works out, great. If not, well, we saw it coming. It's not like I'm going all doom and gloom. Just seems messy.

[View Full Quote]As for your last sentence..that mindset here is getting old quick. There is such thing as having an independent, objective view without being so far on one side or another. You can actually step back and view the landscape without being a homer one way or another. As I've said, I'm middle of the road with Jerry, like Romo and don't like Garrett so its not like I'm in some mold of just being a contrarian. It would make the board much more enjoyable...as stated in the new rules...if people just read, gave an opinion and did so without labeling.

I think people are making it messy because they don't know what is going on. We fired Rob and hired Kiffin how is that a mess? I don't see it as piece meal when a team fires a coordinator and it is likely Kiffin will want to bring in some of his guys again nothing piece meal about that.

As for some of the other things being talked about they are still only rumors

[SilverStarCowboy]

Originally Posted by Aven8

Of course it's a mess. Kind of like the way this team played all season. What do you expect after the train wreck we watched for 16 Years?

Well it's not golf or tennis. Jerry is the only one left. He has done this fly by the seat of your pants thing routinely, whether it's drafting, Hiring Coaches or signing players.