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01-17-2013
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#16
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why people have to be so negative when somebody has put time and effort into something is beyond me.
Right or wrong he's done a damn sight more than you have.
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01-17-2013
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#17
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Gotta give him credit for a post like that. Good effort Xwalker, trying to figure this out isn't easy.
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01-17-2013
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#18
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Illegitimi non carborundum
Years Donated 2004, 2007, 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unionjack8
why people have to be so negative when somebody has put time and effort into something is beyond me.
Right or wrong he's done a damn sight more than you have.
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Originally Posted by Boys122
Gotta give him credit for a post like that. Good effort Xwalker, trying to figure this out isn't easy.
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I agree with these posts. Good job, OP.
I'm anxious to see Adamjt13's numbers too, but I'm not going to call the OP wrong. It's a heck of a good effort and a lot of work.

mahalo nui loa, Juke
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01-17-2013
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#19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xwalker
This spreadsheet shows the top 53 current contracts.
I'm using the top 53 contracts to approximate the salary cap. I'm not going to get into the actual rule of 51 and all of those details.
I have also estimated how some of the top cap hits could be reduced by simple restructures. The estimates also include a new contract for Romo, L.P. Ladouceur (FA) and Costa (RFA).
I have included 2M dead-money for Newman, the 5M penalty and an estimated 2M increase in cap space from a 2012 rollover.
I show them cutting Free(7M base), Spears(2M base), and Connor(3M base).
I have estimated the cost of draft picks based on cap hits of players selected in 2012 at the approximate positions where the Cowboys will be picking. The cost of the 6 draft picks is offset by removing the bottom 6 contracts.
[View Full Quote]I didn't show it, but the Cowboys could also add voidable years to Romo's contract to get the current cap hit very low. They have done this in the past. This could also be done with Ware's contract.
The estimate comes out to $14,764,419 available for Free Agents. Any of the Cowboys own Free Agents (Spencer) that are re-signed would come from this pool of money.
Keep in mind that the first year of Brandon Carr's contract had a cap hit of $3.2M. You could have 4 of those with 14M in cap space.
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Good job. I've never been one to fret about the cap. If the Cowboys want to play in FA, then they will. I think we will have a couple of signings, but nothing like last year. I'm hoping for an OL/DL body to help in the trenchs.
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01-17-2013
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#20
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Originally Posted by junk
It is an approximation. Should be good enough for a ball park idea of where the team will be at. I appreciate the effort.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki
Nice job xwalker!
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Originally Posted by unionjack8
why people have to be so negative when somebody has put time and effort into something is beyond me.
Right or wrong he's done a damn sight more than you have.
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Originally Posted by Boys122
Gotta give him credit for a post like that. Good effort Xwalker, trying to figure this out isn't easy.
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Originally Posted by LeonDixson
I agree with these posts. Good job, OP.
I'm anxious to see Adamjt13's numbers too, but I'm not going to call the OP wrong. It's a heck of a good effort and a lot of work.
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Thanks guys.
You don’t know what you don’t know.
Half of the population has below average intelligence.
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01-17-2013
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#21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkight13
It looks like you added the $2M carryover from 2012 instead of subtracting it. That should add another $4M to make it $18+M available.
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Thanks for reviewing in detail. You are correct.
You don’t know what you don’t know.
Half of the population has below average intelligence.
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01-17-2013
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#22
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Senior Member
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I've updated the spreadsheet with the correct rollover.
The estimate is now 18M available for Free Agents if they sign Romo to a new contract and do simple restructures with some of the top contracts.
I also added the numbers for what it would look like without any restructures, cuts or a new contract for Romo. This number is -24M.

You don’t know what you don’t know.
Half of the population has below average intelligence.
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01-17-2013
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#23
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Excellent job and probably closer than any of us believe at the moment. Nice thing is that XWalker can adjust it once cuts have been made and contracts resigned or restructured.
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01-17-2013
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#24
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by unionjack8
why people have to be so negative when somebody has put time and effort into something is beyond me.
Right or wrong he's done a damn sight more than you have.
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Yes! And I did say the effort is remarkable. Bu you can't frankly say after reading this you're not still waiting for Adam's numbers.
It's the same way if someone made a spreadsheet about player's combine numbers I'd still wait for Xwalker's.
Best Oline for Cowboys:
LT: Free LG: Mankins C: Gurode RG: Holland RT:Young (or an early draft pick)
Hatcher = better overall player than Spears (equal run stopping; better pass rushing)
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01-17-2013
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#25
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Originally Posted by newnationcb
Yes! And I did say the effort is remarkable. Bu you can't frankly say after reading this you're not still waiting for Adam's numbers.
It's the same way if someone made a spreadsheet about player's combine numbers I'd still wait for Xwalker's.
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Yes, I'm waiting for Adam's numbers also.
This is just an estimate. There is no way to get perfect numbers at this time because it includes predicting things like Romo's new contract.
You don’t know what you don’t know.
Half of the population has below average intelligence.
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01-17-2013
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#26
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Old bulletproof tiger
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Originally Posted by newnationcb
Why does anyone even engage in this exercise. If they're not Adamjjts numbers then they're only remarkable in the attempt.
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I've got a prayer on my desk. It says, "Dear Lord, I pray that my place will never be with the cold, timid souls who do not compete yet criticize, for they never know or feel success or failure."
~ BoB Stoops
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01-17-2013
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#27
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Senior Member
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Army Lion at the Ranch had a quote that the team has Connor penciled in as the starting SAM.
I had Connor's money spent some where else. Back to the slide rule.
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01-17-2013
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#28
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burmafrd
We are all waiting for the Finger of God to write on the Stone Tablets
in other words until Adamjts gets around to it nothing else matters
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Adam will have the exact #s -- but this isn't brain surgery. It really not so complicated for anyone with basic math and critical thinking skills. Oh yeah, and the effort level required to put them all together.
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01-17-2013
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#29
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Nice job with this.
I don't think well do much in free agency this year. Not because we can't restructure, but because we got a lot of top end players in the 2010-2011 drafts. We were able to sign all those free agents last year because we didn't get any good players in 2008-2009. If you look towards the future, pushing too much money back and spending more of it now is going to cause problems.
2014 fa: Sean lee
2015 fa: dez Bryant, Bruce carter, demarco Murray, Tyron smith
Out of curiosity, what did you estimate romos contract as?
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01-17-2013
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#30
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Stephen Peterman's Campaign Manager
Joined: | May 2005 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hra8700
Nice job with this.
I don't think well do much in free agency this year. Not because we can't restructure, but because we got a lot of top end players in the 2010-2011 drafts. We were able to sign all those free agents last year because we didn't get any good players in 2008-2009. If you look towards the future, pushing too much money back and spending more of it now is going to cause problems.
2014 fa: Sean lee
2015 fa: dez Bryant, Bruce carter, demarco Murray, Tyron smith
Out of curiosity, what did you estimate romos contract as?
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i pray that we're smart enough to extend Bryant, Carter, and Smith before they reach "Top dollar" status.
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Prediction: Starts and successfully contributes for 16 games.
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