Broaddus: Answer Pretty Clear When Evaluating Both Guards

[burmafrd]

Anyone that takes PFF seriously really needs to pass football 101

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

Anyone that takes PFF seriously really needs to pass football 101

Feel free to give us your rankings of the top 64 guards, top 64 tackles and the top 32 centers in the NFL.

It's real easy to criticize someone else's efforts, but a little tougher to actually rank players.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

Feel free to give us your rankings of the top 64 guards, top 64 tackles and the top 32 centers in the NFL.

It's real easy to criticize someone else's efforts, but a little tougher to actually rank players.

garbage is garbage. And PFF is garbage.

Using flawed formulas and stupid reasoning- some people think that is better then nothing. And they are completely wrong.

[TheCount]

Originally Posted by burmafrd

garbage is garbage. And PFF is garbage.

Using flawed formulas and stupid reasoning- some people think that is better then nothing. And they are completely wrong.

Of course it's better than nothing.

[MichaelWinicki]

Originally Posted by TheCount

Of course it's better than nothing.

And that's what Burms gives us... nothing.

He just gripes about PFF and offers nothing.

[jobberone]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

And you're right we do know which direction it will go... Of course we'll get the "They should have spent more resources on the offensive line" rant as we've gotten 1,000 times.

But the fact remains I doubt the even the most pessimistic among us would have thought that Smith would have had as miserable a season as what he did.

Or that the starting offensive line would play 6 quarters together for the entire season– including training camp?

Those weren't the entire reasons for the offensive line's failure. They could have signed Nicks instead of Carr, but even Nicks was lost for the season after only a handful of games. **** happens.

And they do have to make changes. Free got his mulligan and now he can face the music of another poor season. I thought Bern was more inconsistent than what is portrayed in this article and that Livings was better than what was portrayed-- but whatever.

[View Full Quote]I wish we could have seen more of Costa, his game vs Baltimore was one of the best games played by any Cowboy offensive linemen in a while. And now we don't know if it was an aberration or not.

I expect at least two changes on the starting unit come next September. At least two.

This is my take as well. I see one OT and one interior OL added at least draft/FA.

[dwmyers]

Serviceable RTs, G, and Cs can be found in the fourth round.

Need to decide what your priorities are. Do we add bodies to the DL, as Broaddus has often suggested, or do we go hog wild on the OL?

[junk]

Originally Posted by dwmyers

Serviceable RTs, G, and Cs can be found in the fourth round.

Need to decide what your priorities are. Do we add bodies to the DL, as Broaddus has often suggested, or do we go hog wild on the OL?

Unfortunately, Dallas has proven they cannot find serviceable RTs, Gs and Cs in the fourth round.

OL and DL are probably the two biggest needs on this team. Both are fairly deep in the draft this year, so I hope they are addressed early.

[newlander]

Originally Posted by junk

Unfortunately, Dallas has proven they cannot find serviceable RTs, Gs and Cs in the fourth round.

OL and DL are probably the two biggest needs on this team. Both are fairly deep in the draft this year, so I hope they are addressed early.

.....and have proven they struggle to find them in early rounds too. (looks like Smith will be exception to this however) Heck, even when they DO find a guy that can play, they cut him loose too early: Stephan Peterman has been real solid with Detroit. We gave up on him too early. I will say this though..............the more I analyze other teams in this league they have horrific issues on their olines too:


Bears, Jags, Pack, Jets,Cards,Philly, Dolphins,Chiefs,Lions, etc....and have for years. It is probably the hardest position to draft for. I'd say address it thru free agency but that failed last season with Livings and Bernadeau because the SIMPLE fact is, who in the heck would let a good lineman go in Free Agency?

Last thing I'll say is this thread is SO typical of this board: who CARES if PFF is legit or not? I don't NEED to read the article because I have two eyes and a brain. I've watched pro football since 1978 and our oline SUCKS. It doesn't pass the eyeball test in terms of being affective, efficient, or nasty. THey are a bunch of JAGS except for Smith who isn't where he needs to be yet. That's the bottom line.

[Ultimategamer5567]

Originally Posted by newlander

.....and have proven they struggle to find them in early rounds too. (looks like Smith will be exception to this however) Heck, even when they DO find a guy that can play, they cut him loose too early: Stephan Peterman has been real solid with Detroit. We gave up on him too early. I will say this though..............the more I analyze other teams in this league they have horrific issues on their olines too:


Bears, Jags, Pack, Jets,Cards,Philly, Dolphins,Chiefs,Lions, etc....and have for years. It is probably the hardest position to draft for. I'd say address it thru free agency but that failed last season with Livings and Bernadeau because the SIMPLE fact is, who in the heck would let a good lineman go in Free Agency?

[View Full Quote]Last thing I'll say is this thread is SO typical of this board: who CARES if PFF is legit or not? I don't NEED to read the article because I have two eyes and a brain. I've watched pro football since 1978 and our oline SUCKS. It doesn't pass the eyeball test in terms of being affective, efficient, or nasty. THey are a bunch of JAGS except for Smith who isn't where he needs to be yet. That's the bottom line.

Four of our O-lineman aren't JAGS. They would have to improve ten-fold to even be average.

[CyberB0b]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

OK fair enough...

But how do you balance that when you also need:

-help at safety
-help at DT AND a lot of it if Ratliff is not retained.
-help at DE IF Spencer is not retained.
-help at RB
-help at WR IF Austin is not retained.

See I don't think you can drop two of your first three draft picks on offensive linemen with that list of needs.

Originally Posted by MichaelWinicki

I don't think there's going to be a lot of cap-space available to "plug holes".

Yeah, that's the problem. Incompetence at the top.