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Old 01-18-2013   #31
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I agree. However right now the car has other repiars that need to be taken care of. While I would not mind seeing the Cowboys getting a QB in the draft but there are areas that are a bit more critical at this stage.
Timing Belt goes and it doesn't matter how many new parts you have fixed or replaced, they will all be new in a vehicle that doesn't run. It's a pay me now, pay me more later kind of thing.
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Old 01-18-2013   #32
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Quick question... who thinks this team actually has a legitimate shot in the post season with Romo? I would hope that we would, but I certainly don't think we do.
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I don't want to draft a QB until we have a coaching staff I am comfortable can bring him along. I don't trust Garrett or Wilson with a newbie. I would rather let the org. try to build the foundations of the offensive and defensive lines. We can get a QB in the draft when we have a coach that can handle one.
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Again tell me how many QBs have come out of the draft since 2006, with a higher quarterback rating than Tony Romo?

Now tell me how many quarterbacks have been drafted in the first round?

Divide the first number by the second number, and that is your rate of risk vs reward...

Tell me that you think you're on the right page.
I half never disputed Tony's sterling QB ratings.
While I don't think we'd burn a 1st-round pick on a QB, I contend we need to, at one point, take a chance on QBs like Barkley or Nahhib.

If you think that I think drafting QB is a sure thing, you are mistaken. It's a gamble on QBs. It's also a gamble on other positions unless it is Tyron Smith.

Still, at some point, we need to gamble on a QB. Not to replace Tony next year, but to groom. How much cleerer can I make that?
High QB ratings do not necessarily translate into postseason success.

Just ask Tony.

Just ask any Cowboys fan after that off-balance hail marry thow me made to a Redskins defender in the last game.
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Teams win playoff games and championships... the fact that people fail to recognize that is the real problem. Any one with a lick of sense understands that Romo is not at all the problem here.

It's our lack of an offensive line, lack of a running game, and lack of a defense. Not to mention getting out coached.

Wasting precious draft resources on a QB at this juncture is folly, because he won't be as good as Romo, and will have just as much failure as Romo, because the team will continue to suck.

But QBs can lose them. We may all be senseless but that doesn't mean that your QB rating argument is anymore fruitful. It doesn't matter what your QB rating is during the season. It's about what you do in the Playoffs and in Championships that set the mark.

As for precious draft choices, well, I would not call a draft choice spent on a QB prospect folly, anymore then I would spending a draft choice on any other position. You draft to your board and if that player is a QB, so be it.
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Timing Belt goes and it doesn't matter how many new parts you have fixed or replaced, they will all be new in a vehicle that doesn't run. It's a pay me now, pay me more later kind of thing.
I'm not saying that but if you don't have an engine the timing belt is useless.

I'm all for getting a QB but right now would like to get players to protect the timing belt. Getting a timing belt and watching him getting his ares kicked all over the field is not going to help
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Career QB ratings of QBs drafted in the first round since 2006

Robert Griffin III 102.4
Matt Ryan 90.9
Joe Flacco 86.3
Cam Newton 85.3
Jay Cutler 84
Matthew Stafford 82.8
Josh Freeman 79.8
Jack Locker 78.4
Sam Bradford 77.3
Christian Ponder 77.1
Andrew Luck 76.5
Ryan Tannehill 76.1
Tim Tebow 75.3
Vince Young 74.4
Brandon Weeden 72.6
Mark Sanchez 71.7
Matt Leinart 70.2
Blaine Gabbert 70.2
JaMarcus Russell 65.2
Brady Quinn 64.4
In the final two months of 2011, Romo’s passer rating was 115.9.
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Quick question... who thinks this team actually has a legitimate shot in the post season with Romo? I would hope that we would, but I certainly don't think we do.
I think we half a chance with Romo. Year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year Year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year . . .
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I half never disputed Tony's sterling QB ratings.
While I don't think we'd burn a 1st-round pick on a QB, I contend we need to, at one point, take a chance on QBs like Barkley or Nahhib.

If you think that I think drafting QB is a sure thing, you are mistaken. It's a gamble on QBs. It's also a gamble on other positions unless it is Tyron Smith.

Still, at some point, we need to gamble on a QB. Not to replace Tony next year, but to groom. How much cleerer can I make that?
High QB ratings do not necessarily translate into postseason success.

Just ask Tony.

Just ask any Cowboys fan after that off-balance hail marry thow me made to a Redskins defender in the last game.

Again, it's a team sport. The idea of grooming a quarterback, rather than building a foundation around an elite quarterback that you already have is ridiculous. Any help not going towards helping Romo, is simply wasting the rare opportunity that we have.
In the final two months of 2011, Romo’s passer rating was 115.9.
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I'm not saying that but if you don't have an engine the timing belt is useless.

I'm all for getting a QB but right now would like to get players to protect the timing belt. Getting a timing belt and watching him getting his ares kicked all over the field is not going to help
I understand that. I don't really have a problem with that but I still believe Dooms, that it's something you have to work in conjunction. If you have a QB on your board and he's there, you should not be afraid to pull the trigger on him. I have always felt like the Cowboys should be in the business of developing QBs. The returns on it, even if they don't play for you, have much more upside. I don't necessarily think we need to draft a QB in the 1st but if there is one there, we should not look away from it simply because we have other needs. The time is coming where we are going to need another QB.
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I think we half a chance with Romo. Year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year Year after year after year after year after year after year after year after year . . .
Right.

I'd rather take a chance and look for a new QB.

While Romo gives us a chance at the playoffs, I don't think he gives us a chance at a Championship.

What's the use of hovering around 8-8? Higher draft picks are more valuable.
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I understand that. I don't really have a problem with that but I still believe Dooms, that it's something you have to work in conjunction. If you have a QB on your board and he's there, you should not be afraid to pull the trigger on him. I have always felt like the Cowboys should be in the business of developing QBs. The returns on it, even if they don't play for you, have much more upside. I don't necessarily think we need to draft a QB in the 1st but if there is one there, we should not look away from it simply because we have other needs. The time is coming where we are going to need another QB.
I agree. I would not be upset with a QB taken in the middle of the draft or higher should one of the top prospect drops.

I just think it is highly unlikely Cowboys will be looking at QB in the 1st 3 rds of this draft especially if they extend Romo contract which most seem to think will happen.
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I agree. I would not be upset with a QB taken in the middle of the draft or higher should one of the top prospect drops.

I just think it is highly unlikely Cowboys will be looking at QB in the 1st 3 rds of this draft especially if they extend Romo contract which most seem to think will happen.
This is the factor that we have no control over. I am still trying to get my head around what the driving force might be that makes Tony extend. I mean, I completely understand why the team would want him to do that but I don't see the benefit of Tony actually doing this. He can probably make more money by playing out his contract and hitting FA. JMO.
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this team should draft BPA, even if that means taking a QB in round 1. also i might add that im not a big Romo supporter, so i look forward to our next great QB, it cant come soon enough.
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I agree. I would not be upset with a QB taken in the middle of the draft or higher should one of the top prospect drops.

I just think it is highly unlikely Cowboys will be looking at QB in the 1st 3 rds of this draft especially if they extend Romo contract which most seem to think will happen.

If taking a QB in the 1st round is a crap shoot, then taking a QB in the middle rounds is a sure recipe for mediocrity. If it comes to taking a chance in the middle rounds, then Romo/Orton start looking like better options.
and 8-8 seasons become our destiny until we wise up and at least try to land a franchise QB.
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