Lance Armstrong - Does Anybody Even Care Anymore?

[rocboy22]

screw him, he's a doosh

[vta]

Originally Posted by joseephuss

He is obviously targeting females by going on Oprah. I don't know if that strategy will work, but he is trying to get women on his side as much as possible.

On his side for what? Is he looking for an endorsement deal for something?
I'm not really pointing out that it's Oprah though, more the fact the guy is going on TV playing the sycophant. Way more than embarrassing than being caught doping.

[joseephuss]

Originally Posted by vta

On his side for what? Is he looking for an endorsement deal for something?
I'm not really pointing out that it's Oprah though, more the fact the guy is going on TV playing the sycophant. Way more than embarrassing than being caught doping.

I have no idea what his end game is. He is a calculating guy. He went on Oprah for a reason. I speculate in part to get the softer gender on his side. To what end I do not know.

The problem for Lance isn't that he was doping. That could have been forgiven. His problem is that everyone is now seeing that he is a big, hateful jerk. He has to try and fix that.

[Manwiththeplan]

Originally Posted by vta

On his side for what? Is he looking for an endorsement deal for something?

I'm tempting to make a ****** bag joke, but I won't

[Hoov]

Originally Posted by joseephuss

I have no idea what his end game is. He is a calculating guy. He went on Oprah for a reason. I speculate in part to get the softer gender on his side. To what end I do not know.

The problem for Lance isn't that he was doping. That could have been forgiven. His problem is that everyone is now seeing that he is a big, hateful jerk. He has to try and fix that.

Thanks for posting the link to that article.

I can certainly see how many would get pulled into using PED's if it was common place in your sport, and if that sport was your career and primary source of income. I agree that people would be forgiving of that.

Its another case of not be willing to accept the consequences of your actions and the attempts to cover it up ends up doing more damage then if he had just decided to face up to the truth.

Im sure it was embarrassing for him to confess after repeatedly denying the whole thing and i can undestand that once he started down that path it would be more and more difficult to come clean.

when he started using PED's it's probable that he never saw himself becoming the popular figure and hero that he eventually became... so at first he was just another guy training and doing what many others were doing to compete. Once he got to that point of fame and basicly being worshipped by so many - then i think its very hard for a person at that level to admit to something that would be such a disapointment so i can imagine there would be a great level of difficulty there. I think some might underestimate that.

However, it still stands that he cheated and continued to publicly lie about it and people have a hard time finding a person likeable when they see that. And he took it to another level with the threats that were being made against others. I dont know if you can fix your reputation after something like that is carried out in the public for everyone to see.

[newlander]

Originally Posted by rocboy22

screw him, he's a doosh

and ND and Swarbrick are worse for covering up for him. HIs 'teammates' are coming out and outing him now...said he knew and milked it for PR....what a scumbag.

[vta]

Originally Posted by Manwiththeplan

I'm tempting to make a ****** bag joke, but I won't

[big dog cowboy]

Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

Does anybody even care?

No.

Actually hell no.

[crazytown41]

This mess just showed us how easy it is to pass PED testing. Lance never failed a test. Have to wonder how many pro athletes are getting away with this right now.

VADA and CIR random testing is the way to clean up pro sports according to Vic Conte.

[Doomsday]

Originally Posted by CowboyMcCoy

I'm wondering why he came clean. And I'm wondering why some people are even surprised.

I would bet it is because Oprah paid him a small ransom.

[Diogenes]

Originally Posted by newlander

and ND and Swarbrick are worse for covering up for him. HIs 'teammates' are coming out and outing him now...said he knew and milked it for PR....what a scumbag.

ND and Swarbrick covered up for Lance Armstrong too? That university has no shame.

[csirl]

He still hasnt apologised to Paul Kimmage.

Kimmage was the ex-cyclist turned journalist who first exposed doping in cycling to a larger audience. All the outings in cycling over the past 20 years can be linked to Kimmage's campaigning against doping. The french can him 'the guy who spit in the soup'. Armstrong has made personal attacks on Kimmage and has been trying to sue him.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/othe...w-3357096.html

[Cythim]

[ghst187]

Originally Posted by WPBCowboysFan

Does anybody even care?

um....lemme check.....NOPE!

it was great that him dominating the sport irked the French so badly for about a decade. I liked that part. Even though he cheated, he stole their joy and they can't get that back....so for that, I'm still appreciative of Lance.

My biggest disappointment though is that he ruined one of the all-time great cameo appearances in the movie "Dodgeball"

[joseephuss]

Originally Posted by crazytown41

This mess just showed us how easy it is to pass PED testing. Lance never failed a test. Have to wonder how many pro athletes are getting away with this right now.

VADA and CIR random testing is the way to clean up pro sports according to Vic Conte.

I think that is being questioned now. He may have indeed failed some tests, but bribed or coerced his way out of the results being submitted. Who knows to what extent his cheating entailed. We may still never find out.