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Old 01-20-2013   #211
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An interview with Jeff Ireland would be interesting.
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Old 01-20-2013   #212
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I believe him. I dont think he was in on it, or that he is gay.

I think he fell for this girl online. He was embarrassed, so he lied about meeting her.

Humiliation, but hopefully it shall pass and he learns from it.

He appears in interviews to be going out of his way to bringing her up as an inspiration, etc. and this includes interviews after he supposedly learned of the hoax. I don't buy it. The story he wants us to believe is that his friend was behind all of it, which included her untimely death right after his grandmother died, right before a huge game.

The more simple explanation is that he was also in on it, and used the story to garner more attention and awards. He even has stated that his goal is to create a big impact on people. He apparently fantasizes about this so much that he concocted a way to do so on a bigger scale than his mere football play could accomplish. This would have never recoiled had it not been tipped to the media by one person.
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Old 01-20-2013   #213
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That statement is 100% true. But lots of women get raped without committing suicide.
You're absolutely right: Nothing has been proven either way (although you're wrong when you say there has been no investigation). And that's why I'm glad that I live in a country where, in situations where nothing is proven, the assumption of innocence is afforded to the accused (despite what other people in here seem to think, it turns out that the "presumption of innocence" is still the law of the land here in these United States).
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Your problem is that your sole piece of evidence - beyond your irrational hatred of all things Notre Dame - is a woman who was mentally deranged enough to actually commit suicide. I hate to paint such a harsh, unflattering view of this woman, but clinically speaking suicide is evidence that she just wasn't playing with a full deck.
You presume she wasn't playing with a full deck prior to the alleged rape and not as the result of the alleged rape. She is also entitled to the "presumption of innocence". You can't just assume she is guilty of making false accusations.

http://www.suicide.org/rape-victims-...o-suicide.html
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He was trying to gain sympathy votes for the Heisman.
He wasn't a Heisman favorite at the start of the season. That is quite a gamble.

I think he got duped good. He then made things worse for himself by embellishing the extent of his relationship.
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I think he got duped good. He then made things worse for himself by embellishing the extent of his relationship.
His mistake was not coming forward and going public when he first found out she was not real.

I think if he came out then, .. people would have still thought he was weird, but nobody would be against him or questioning him like they are now.
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You presume she wasn't playing with a full deck prior to the alleged rape and not as the result of the alleged rape. She is also entitled to the "presumption of innocence". You can't just assume she is guilty of making false accusations.
I'm sure we as guys can not even begin to fathom the trauma, the shame, the mind-altering, life changing event such as a rape.
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I just wonder how he could claim it was a serious relationship when he never even kissed her.
"Since we will never see each other again, is there any question you would like to ask me"...

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I just wonder how he could claim it was a serious relationship when he never even kissed her.
Or looked in her eyes or held her hand, or smelled her neck.
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He appears in interviews to be going out of his way to bringing her up as an inspiration, etc. and this includes interviews after he supposedly learned of the hoax. I don't buy it. The story he wants us to believe is that his friend was behind all of it, which included her untimely death right after his grandmother died, right before a huge game.

The more simple explanation is that he was also in on it, and used the story to garner more attention and awards. He even has stated that his goal is to create a big impact on people. He apparently fantasizes about this so much that he concocted a way to do so on a bigger scale than his mere football play could accomplish. This would have never recoiled had it not been tipped to the media by one person.
It's also possible that both are true. He got hoaxed, AND he used the story and embellished it for attention or sympathy or whatever his motivations were.

At this point I'm buying that he probably was innocent in this at least at first - weird, yes, but he fell victim to a fraud - but he embellished and played to the crowd as he got in deeper and deeper. Not exactly an endorsement of his judgement and equilibrium, but right now I doubt it's more than that.
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Whatever happened to the part about the Cardinals fullback and Polamalu claiming they'd met her?
Ivy League

Jason Garrett offense rank minus Tony Sparano: 18, 14, 7, 15, 15
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Whatever happened to the part about the Cardinals fullback and Polamalu claiming they'd met her?
The fullback is Reagan Maui'a. Here is what he wrote on Twitter several days ago.


Reagan Maui'a@Reagan_Mauia45
Troy Polamalu did not meet Lennay or knew of her @ all. He's being unfairly dragged into this & has absolutely no involvement.
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Ok, then did Reagan ever clarify?
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Its amazing how the media has basically just let this story die . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Still plenty of things that dont fit together.

Selective reporting?
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Its amazing how the media has basically just let this story die . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Still plenty of things that dont fit together.

Selective reporting?
Nothing else to say until after the interview Thursday night.

Then it will pick back up.
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Old 01-22-2013   #225
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Nothing else to say until after the interview Thursday night.

Then it will pick back up.

Another interview? Is it going to be at 2am with morse code transcripts only?
The Dallas "Football" Cowboys a team where everyone is accountable*.

*Unless their name is Jerry or Jason.
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