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Galian Beast · 01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by theebs

I still do not understand all the angst concerning John Garrett.

Before Galloway and mortensen started this John Garrett stuff two weeks ago I never saw anyone mention his name.

And I have yet to see anyone explain to me how he was holding back the team or the offense.....

If this gets us tony sporano it will be a good thing to me.

If it gets us mike tice as the coach, well ok I guess.

I simply don't get all the anger over John Garrett.

People don't need to be vocal to not like the guy.

He didn't develop anyone since he has been here, and we've got some tight ends that had some talent.

Bluestang · 01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by theebs

I still do not understand all the angst concerning John Garrett.

Before Galloway and mortensen started this John Garrett stuff two weeks ago I never saw anyone mention his name.

And I have yet to see anyone explain to me how he was holding back the team or the offense.....

If this gets us tony sporano it will be a good thing to me.

If it gets us mike tice as the coach, well ok I guess.

I simply don't get all the anger over John Garrett.

It's a standard practice to bash anything and everything Cowboys when a player or coach leaves.

Little Jr · 01-20-2013

1 jg down. 1 jg to go

Galian Beast · 01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

It's a standard practice to bash anything and everything Cowboys when a player or coach leaves.

I love how people pretend as if we were 12-4 the last few years...

Bluestang · 01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by Galian Beast

I love how people pretend as if we were 12-4 the last few years...

Where did I say that?

You "realists" really need to quit making up things as you go.

This roster has issues with personnel moreso than the coaching but let's pretend that everyone is great and overrate the talent.

**WoodysGirl** · 01-20-2013

Spags posted that he was going to the Bucs in an article, but it was just a one-liner, so I didn't know what to think about it.

Wonder who they have in mind to replace him..

texmex · 01-20-2013

I'm still confused

Whose move was this?

Did Jason want to part ways with his brother? If so, why?

Did Jerry force this move? If so, why? He's the TE coach after all, not exactly a staff defining role. Is he just trying to throw his weight around?

Is John moving on 100% on his own accord? If so, why is he making a lateral move to work with a head coach he has no prior working relationship with?

Galian Beast · 01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

Where did I say that?

You "realists" really need to quit making up things as you go.

This roster has issues with personnel moreso than the coaching but let's pretend that everyone is great and overrate the talent.

The roster has issues? It's the coaches job to develop the roster. Too often players don't amount to anything here, and go else where and suddenly flourish under legitimate coaching.

I would have no problem with John Garrett if he developed a tight end. And then despite not developing anyone, he is promoted to passing game coordinator. How has our passing game been coordinated? Not well I'd say.

Only coach on this offense worth anything is Robinson. Callahan is TBD. The rest have been garbage.

**WoodysGirl** · 01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by texmex

I'm still confused

Whose move was this?

Did Jason want to part ways with his brother? If so, why?

Did Jerry force this move? If so, why? He's the TE coach after all, not exactly a staff defining role. Is he just trying to throw his weight around?

Is John moving on 100% on his own accord? If so, why is he making a lateral move to work with a head coach he has no prior working relationship with?

From what I read, and I can't think of which article, but Jason told John that he should look for another job.

Galian Beast · 01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by texmex

I'm still confused

Whose move was this?

Did Jason want to part ways with his brother? If so, why?

Did Jerry force this move? If so, why? He's the TE coach after all, not exactly a staff defining role. Is he just trying to throw his weight around?

Is John moving on 100% on his own accord? If so, why is he making a lateral move to work with a head coach he has no prior working relationship with?

He was the passing game coordinator as well as the te coach.

Mansta54 · 01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by Bluestang

It's a standard practice to bash anything and everything Cowboys when a player or coach leaves.

Bingo!!! And a lot of immature so called Cowboy fans get a kick out of doing so. I really don't understand it and don't care to actually. I just smh when reading all the bashing and hate on this board toward JJ, JG, the staff, and the team. Its crazy!!!

theebs · 01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by Galian Beast

People don't need to be vocal to not like the guy.

He didn't develop anyone since he has been here, and we've got some tight ends that had some talent.

I understand.

John Phillips was on his way until that second acl surgery slowed him down.

Tony sporano was beloved here....(particularly by me) but he only developed witten, and really was only his coach for a couple years, pasqualoni before that and Freddie kitchens after sporano.

Sean Ryan was a 4 th round pick and he washed out immediately. Sporano couldn't "develop" him. Brett pierce, Dan Campbell played well under sporano/pasqualoni though.

In 2007 witten,fasano and tony Curtis all played well under Garrett.

Bennett is a mental case with bad hands. Hardly a reason to crucify John Garrett.

I am just confused as to where the angst comes from.

Bluestang · 01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by Galian Beast

The roster has issues? It's the coaches job to develop the roster. Too often players don't amount to anything here, and go else where and suddenly flourish under legitimate coaching.

I would have no problem with John Garrett if he developed a tight end. And then despite not developing anyone, he is promoted to passing game coordinator. How has our passing game been coordinated? Not well I'd say.

Only coach on this offense worth anything is Robinson. Callahan is TBD. The rest have been garbage.

So what players flourished elsewhere?

If you say Bennett, I'm just going to laugh...

**WoodysGirl** · 01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by theebs

I understand.

John Phillips was on his way until that second acl surgery slowed him down.

Tony sporano was beloved here....(particularly by me) but he only developed witten, and really was only his coach for a year, pasqualoni before that and Freddie kitchens after sporano.

Sean Ryan was a 4 th round pick and he washed out immediately. Sporano couldn't "develop" him. Brett pierce, Dan Campbell played well under sporano/pasqualoni though.

In 2007 witten,fasano and tony Curtis all played well under Garrett.

Bennett is a mental case with bad hands. Hardly a reason to crucify John Garrett.

I am just confused as to where the angst comes from.

I don't think it's that deep. It's all about his last name for some. Others may have diff reasons, but I think that's a big part of it.

goshan · 01-20-2013

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Originally Posted by Mansta54

Bingo!!! And a lot of immature so called Cowboy fans get a kick out of doing so. I really don't understand it and don't care to actually. I just smh when reading all the bashing and hate on this board toward JJ, JG, the staff, and the team. Its crazy!!!

I have no hate for the owner, staff and team. But coaching has been a major issue and I am glad there are changes.