Slowly but surely we need to get rid of contracts

[Mansta54]

Originally Posted by Vintage

Id also add Witten. He is old.

Lee will need an extension soon. Dump him while he is cheap.

Carter will probably be expensive to retain in a few years, lets get ahead of the curb and move on.

Can you imagine how expensive Claiborne will be if he pans out? Lets dump him, too.

Tyron is a young LT. That could be costly. Maybe find a cheaper alternative.

Nicely done!!!

[LatinMind]

I actually agree with the OP but not the way he looks at it.

Austin, Ratliff, Free will all be on the hot seat this yr. And i think if either of them stumble this offseason they'll be gone before TC.

If they see something in younger players i think they'll release them in june. But it would take a big step for them to release Austin.

I will say i think this is the last yr for Austin and Ratliff in Dallas. They would probably want to release them but they just cant. Next yr their contracts will be easier to cut.

And i actually agree with somebodys view on Ware in this thread. Right now i would rather have Dallas trade him and get return then keep him. I love Ware and i Loved him before he was a name in his offseason before his draft when most of you were on Merrimans jock. But its time to build and keep building. Fans of their respective teams hated the idea of letting players like Peppers and Williams walk and trading Semoure but the patriots panthers and texans all benefited from it.

Ware is in his prime so that probably makes it a bad idea, but if a team would offer a big return which he would command i wouldnt cry if it happened. Its all about building. DEs are easier to find in a 4-3 then a passrushing OLB.

[ufcrules1]

Originally Posted by CaptainMorgan

I love Witten but Im betting Hannah can step in and instantly add more speed and play making ability. If we can save money by releasing Witten Id do it.

When you rebuild sometimes those decisions are painful but I'd be looking at building a core of players for the future at this point.

Excellent post. Hanna really impressed me with the limited play he got. He is very fast, has good hands and it just seems like his play making potential is higher. Reminds me a little of Aaron Hernandez.

The problem is Jerry is just too loyal to players and has too much of an emotional tie to them. By the time we realize a player is going down hill here, it is simply to late to get anything for that player.

Ware is a prime example. We could trade him now and easily get a #1 for him but we will instead keep him and he will continue to get injured and not produce as much as he used to. It will get to a point where no team will want him, or if they do, they won't offer much.

I love some of these guys like Witten and Ware but this is a business and you have to do what is right for the team/organization. The ultimate goal has to be to win a championship.

[1fisher]

This is going to be the longest offseason in the history of offseasons!

[Risen Star]

Originally Posted by Galian Beast

Players like Austin, Ratliff, Spears, Free, Bernadeau, Livings, Scandrick, Sensabaugh, and even Ware.

The only player there that I was for signing/extending was Ware. The other guys were clearly bad contracts when they were signed.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

The only player there that I was for signing/extending was Ware. The other guys were clearly bad contracts when they were signed.

You sign Ware to a new contract and in 2-3 yrs from now fans are crying about how much he costs against the cap. Ware has 4 yrs left on his current contract.

[joseephuss]

Originally Posted by Galian Beast

Exactly right. If we could get trade value for Witten, not only does that make our team better, frees up money, it also adds speed to the offense.

Not to say that Hanna is better than Witten, rather that the drop off compared to what we get in return sounds palatable.

The drop off you would get from trading Witten would be huge. It would not be palatable at all.

[Galian Beast]

Originally Posted by Macnalty

I agree with you I just do not like it. The reality is the new defense will not place a high priority on resigning Lee, if you can remember Ken Norton you will understand.
Thanks for taking this unpopular message to the populace. Emotionally it hurts.

Thanks for the support, but I disagree. The MLB is crucial in a tampa 2 defense. Look at Brian Urlacher.

The Tampa 2 4-3 defense needs a middle linebacker who can drop into coverage, and read and react quickly to the run.

That is Sean Lee to a tee. Him and Carter are almost certainly the reason we are moving to the tampa 2.

[Galian Beast]

Originally Posted by joseephuss

The drop off you would get from trading Witten would be huge. It would not be palatable at all.

I just don't think so. I think we can open the offense up without Witten. You might not get as many receptions, but I do think you would get more yards per catch, and potentially more touchdowns.

I think Witten's production can be supplanted by gains at the wide receiver position as well.

I'm not particularly in a rush to see Witten traded, but I would suggest that trading him, getting a high quality draft pick, and using the resources spent on him towards enhancing the offensive line would pay dividends.

[MartinRamone]

I agree. except Ware.

[Galian Beast]

Originally Posted by MartinRamone

I agree. except Ware.

Is Ware worth 13-14 million? Will he be in two years from now?

I mean what is the end game with Ware? Break it down for me so I can see it how you see it.

This guy could get us a first round draft pick perhaps more and frees us room to secure Carter, Lee, and Claiborne.

[MartinRamone]

Originally Posted by Galian Beast

Is Ware worth 13-14 million? Will he be in two years from now?

I mean what is the end game with Ware? Break it down for me so I can see it how you see it.

This guy could get us a first round draft pick perhaps more and frees us room to secure Carter, Lee, and Claiborne.

Next year will be crucial to see how much he is worth, i dont rule him out just yet. He was a dissapointment this year, but i would like to see him fully healthy again before i make up my mind.
And i doubt a first pick in this weak draft is worth getting rid of him.

[Rynie]

Originally Posted by 1fisher

This is going to be the longest offseason in the history of offseasons!

I don't know...remember the lockout?

[joseephuss]

Originally Posted by Galian Beast

I just don't think so. I think we can open the offense up without Witten. You might not get as many receptions, but I do think you would get more yards per catch, and potentially more touchdowns.

I think Witten's production can be supplanted by gains at the wide receiver position as well.

I'm not particularly in a rush to see Witten traded, but I would suggest that trading him, getting a high quality draft pick, and using the resources spent on him towards enhancing the offensive line would pay dividends.

You don't think the offense is opened up with Witten on the team? What a silly notion. Dez caught 92 passes, which was 10th in the league. Austin was 30th in the league with his 66 receptions. If someone would have stepped up there would have been more receptions for the #3 wide receiver as well. Having Witten on the team does not limit the offense. Quite the opposite. With him roaming the middle it opens up the outside for Dez and Austin.

It is also presumptuous to think that Hanna can step right in and start giving enough production that would help the entire offense get better. He is not ready for that role yet.

I am all for fixing the offensive line. That is the key. Getting rid of Witten to do that doesn't help the team. It is too much of a trade off. They can still find ways to improve the offensive line and keep Witten. Talk about under appreciated if you think replacing Witten's production would be an easy thing to do.

[zrinkill]

I want to use the Batman slap pic right now.

But its probably not allowed anymore.