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01-21-2013
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#61
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Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun.
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Originally Posted by Wulfman
It's okay...if he's still not 100% sure that the article is a fake, he'll still be interested in that property.
Good grief... 
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01-21-2013
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#62
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Penguinite
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006
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Originally Posted by theebs
how is houston nutt in any way shape or form the best rb coach possible?
who else has been interested in him?
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in the way that he has developed the most running backs of anyone.
the guy was a head coach for a decade in the SEC and has only been out of coaching a year. hardly some major flaw that he sat 1 season.
this guy has coached thurman thomas, barry sanders, darren mcfadden, peyton hillis, felix et al.
that's a heck of a list for a guy who has worked college ranks exclusively.
who exactly are these other awesome candidates???
skip peete developed whom exactly here? we saw barber steadily decline; felix looks like he shares a diet with skip. we tried to play rookies that looked great in pre-season but they either can't block or can't hit holes.
skip is one of the easiest cuts to explain.
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01-21-2013
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#63
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Unofficial GM
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Originally Posted by jterrell
skip is one of the easiest cuts to explain.
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Have to agree whole-heartedly here, JT. I was honestly surprised that he didn't get the pink slip last year, and think the only reason he didn't was because of how Murray exploded onto the scene.
"Contrary to popular opinion, you CAN lead a horse to water AND make him drink...you just have to hold his head under water long enough."
- Wulf
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01-21-2013
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#64
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Senior Member
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"The restructures are built in. Everybody’s making a big to do about this. I don’t know why."- Stephen Jones
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01-21-2013
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#65
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Dark Days
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jterrell
in the way that he has developed the most running backs of anyone.
the guy was a head coach for a decade in the SEC and has only been out of coaching a year. hardly some major flaw that he sat 1 season.
this guy has coached thurman thomas, barry sanders, darren mcfadden, peyton hillis, felix et al.
that's a heck of a list for a guy who has worked college ranks exclusively.
who exactly are these other awesome candidates???
skip peete developed whom exactly here? we saw barber steadily decline; felix looks like he shares a diet with skip. we tried to play rookies that looked great in pre-season but they either can't block or can't hit holes.
skip is one of the easiest cuts to explain.
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Other than pass blocking...do you really develop some of those guys you listed or is the majority of it just natural talent.
You hear all the time that the hardest part for a rookie RB to learn is pass protection because either you have the natural athletic ability, jukability and vision or you do not at RB for the most part.
I am not sure that him having coached those guys is a testament to his ability as a RB coach as much as it is to coaches that recruited them to those schools and that might be credit that does to him if he recruited them.
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01-21-2013
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#66
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Banned
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Originally Posted by Bullflop
Those of us who read the transcript of Houston Nutt's job interview with Garrett recently could see that interview was a just a sham and a disservice to JG. Jerry may as well fire Garrett now rather than to continue emasculating him in that manner. Nutt and Jerry both treated that interview like a joke. It was obvious Jerry and his Nutty drinking buddy had already agreed the job was his before that interview ever took place. One can readily see now why Garrett (or anyone else) couldn't help being disfunctional in that environment.
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Funny how Jason had no complaints about Wade being emasculated when the latter was coach... Like I said, karma's a...
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01-21-2013
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#67
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Dark Days
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^^  ^^
Not another
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01-21-2013
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#68
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Banned
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Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
^^  ^^
Not another
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If you think my comments were about a 'sham' interview, than let me just repeat what you stated, but take it in regards to yourself with a little more flavor...

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01-21-2013
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#69
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Dark Days
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Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub
If you think my comments were about a 'sham' interview, than let me just repeat what you stated, but take it in regards to yourself with a little more flavor...

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I don't think your comments were about a sham interview...I think your comments were about a way to further your agenda by using the comments of someone who thought a sham interview was real.
And with that in mind...yes the laughing and not another comment still applies.
Thanks. Four thumbs down, the milk's gone bad.
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01-21-2013
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#70
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2004, 2009, 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jterrell
in the way that he has developed the most running backs of anyone.
the guy was a head coach for a decade in the SEC and has only been out of coaching a year. hardly some major flaw that he sat 1 season.
this guy has coached thurman thomas, barry sanders, darren mcfadden, peyton hillis, felix et al.
that's a heck of a list for a guy who has worked college ranks exclusively.
who exactly are these other awesome candidates???
skip peete developed whom exactly here? we saw barber steadily decline; felix looks like he shares a diet with skip. we tried to play rookies that looked great in pre-season but they either can't block or can't hit holes.
skip is one of the easiest cuts to explain.
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You make very good points.
I think some people on this Board have a problem differentiating between a guy who was perhaps an unsuccessful HC versus that same guy who was/can be a successful position coach.
Nutt is not coming here to be the HC. The question is how well he can coach RBs.
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01-21-2013
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#71
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Banned
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Posts: | 1,222 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
I don't think your comments were about a sham interview...I think your comments were about a way to further your agenda by using the comments of someone who thought a sham interview was real.
And with that in mind...yes the laughing and not another comment still applies.
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Which means your sense of humor is even worse than I thought...
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01-21-2013
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#72
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Penguinite
Years Donated 2004, 2005, 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt
Other than pass blocking...do you really develop some of those guys you listed or is the majority of it just natural talent.
You hear all the time that the hardest part for a rookie RB to learn is pass protection because either you have the natural athletic ability, jukability and vision or you do not at RB for the most part.
I am not sure that him having coached those guys is a testament to his ability as a RB coach as much as it is to coaches that recruited them to those schools and that might be credit that does to him if he recruited them.
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I think it is completely fair to question this but how else can we judge guys for the position except how players performed under them?
I know I haven't been at all happy with the development of the Cowboys RBs. Where we used picks on guys like Felix, Choice. Barber they seemed to be as good when they showed up as they were when they left.
At ARK Nutt found a way to play and run all 3 of McFadden. Hillis and Felix. He used WildRebel formations at Ole Miss. He found ways to keep backs developing as far as I can tell.
With any position coach we'll never really know so all we can do is judge results after the fact.
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01-21-2013
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#73
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Senior Member
Joined: | May 2009 |
Location: | Idaho |
Posts: | 4,730 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jterrell
in the way that he has developed the most running backs of anyone.
the guy was a head coach for a decade in the SEC and has only been out of coaching a year. hardly some major flaw that he sat 1 season.
this guy has coached thurman thomas, barry sanders, darren mcfadden, peyton hillis, felix et al.
that's a heck of a list for a guy who has worked college ranks exclusively.
who exactly are these other awesome candidates???
skip peete developed whom exactly here? we saw barber steadily decline; felix looks like he shares a diet with skip. we tried to play rookies that looked great in pre-season but they either can't block or can't hit holes.
skip is one of the easiest cuts to explain.
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Just to add something here about Skip Peete's firing...
Many NFL teams have transitioned their running game to a "read and run" scheme meaning if the primary holes that the running play is designed are blocked up they can "freelance" to find other open holes as the play is developing. Garrett has said mutliple times that they don't tell the ball carrier where to go - it's up to them to read the defense and run through an opening.
The bolded part is where Peete failed his position group in the film room. No one, to include Murray, could read the front and consistently attack the weak areas of formation when the blocking from the OL was OK. I posted a picture of Murray in the TB game where he missed a huge opening and instead ran into the strength of the defense after that game. Where he got a 4yd gain he could have had busted open a huge run.
The other problem was the constant fumbling problem. Felix Jones managed to fumble the ball 5 times in 2011 as a part time back (tied for 1st) Barber also had issues with ball security that was unacceptable. Even Murray had an uncharacteristic 2 game stretch of fumbling the ball.
These are fundamental issues that need to be fixed.
"It's little bit like the description of pornography from years back. It's hard to define it. But you know what it is at the end of it. It's hard to define it. I think you know who is more physical. Often times you see that in the fourth quarter. A lot of time the team on the other side feels it. We pride ourselves on being a physical football team. It's important to us. It's an important time of the year to lay that foundation." - Coach Garrett
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01-21-2013
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#74
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Senior Member
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Location: | NC |
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I suppose Jerry thinks adding Nutt will get him some glory hole. 
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01-21-2013
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#75
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Banned
Joined: | Jun 2012 |
Posts: | 1,222 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluestang
Garrett has said mutliple times that they don't tell the ball carrier where to go - it's up to them to read the defense and run through an opening.
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And Garrett's responsibility is to tell all the players to line up and get the job done...
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