Fitness: Knee & ankle support for bodybuilding

[Signals]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

http://www.drbookspan.com/clinical.html

Hey Rick, this is some great stuff. I just spent about 45 minutes going through the knee section and found some useful information.

Back in my 30's when I was doing leg work, I had this sneaking suspicion that my knee pain was coming from minor improper use of the leg machines as well as improper positioning of my legs, knees and feet why sitting on these machines. While the machine always have these pictures showing how to use them, some of the finer points of posture are nonexistent.

Another thing that I noticed when I used to run on a treadmill is that when I got closer to the end of the workout and I was tired, my running gait became sloppy and may be a partial reason for issues with my ankle.

There is definitely some info here that can get me on the right track. Thank you.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

This may sound dumb but I can't indentify if it's muscle, ligament, or both.

It hurts where my ligaments are and it hurts in the calf muscle too. The pain sometimes shoots out to random areas around my knee. It's not extremely painful or anything. Just feels like something is wrong with the knee.

Also the knee will pop sometimes.


I point my feet out a little when I squat and I go lower than parallel.

http://www.drbookspan.com/KneePainArticle.html

The knee popping is most probably a tendon moving across a bone...

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by Signals

Hey Rick, this is some great stuff. I just spent about 45 minutes going through the knee section and found some useful information.

Back in my 30's when I was doing leg work, I had this sneaking suspicion that my knee pain was coming from minor improper use of the leg machines as wall as improper positioning of my legs, knees and feet why sitting on these machines. While the machine always have these pictures showing how to use them, some of the finer points of posture are nonexistent.

Another thing that I noticed when I used to run on a treadmill is that when I got closer to the end of the workout and I was tired, my running gait became sloppy and may be a partial reason for issues with my ankle.

There is definitely some info here that can get me on the right track. Thank you.

No problem... Like I said, I found her stuff and haven't looked back since.

I was suffering from shoulder and neck issues.. I also use to strain my neck very easily, and couldn't understand why and, because of the concepts outlined on her web-page, I realized it was because of the forward shoulders and elongated neck muscles as a result of bent-over posture, from work all day. Lifting with the poor posture exacerbated my problems, through things such as pushing the humerus into my shoulder bones and probably wearing down the bursa. I didn't get it originally, why I was having pain, because per what is fed by everybody, "increasing strength and working out' should correct issues, instead of causing them. The pectoral and tarpezius stretch worked wonders. I've still in the process of rectifying it all, and am probably 95 percent there. I don't strain my neck playing sports anymore, have really good range of motion and improve everyday in sports functionally.

I also use to suffer as well from lower back pain, which I couldn't figure out why, which is what actually initiated my pursuit of fixing my pain. I use to dead-lift all the time and my strength was really good. She pretty much nailed my problems dead on, bent over posture pressuring disks had taken their toll, as well as poor hip posture as a result of bad sitting at work. This also led to extremely tight hips, which I've pretty much rectified by the stretches that are done via 'tucking the hip'. I modified the dead lift based upon what she stated, and have essentially negated the issue of pushing the disks together and lifting while leaning over.

I'd actually suggest buying her book, "How to fix your pain without drugs or surgery" because they elaborate in a little more detail certain issues and their fixes. Her other books, though they emphasize other aspects, cover a lot of repetitive stuff. If your deeply interested you could by them, but there really is no need. I felt obligated to buy her books, pretty much because of her web-site essentially clearing up my main issues. Once you get the main concepts down, which is pretty easy because of her simplicity of writing and style, you'll never look back.

The fact that she put this free stuff out there is a testimony to her character and integrity. The page in and of itself saves people years of just bad chiropracters and doctors not being able to fix issues and plenty of money just wasted down the drain. She was paralyzed twice as an aside, because of accidents, and worked her way back to full usage and prior to Christopher Reeves dying, she was working with him. She has pictures with her and Reeves on the web-site. I like to work with her personally one day at one of her workshops, just to get the experience.

[Future]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

So do you play in an oldman league for lacrosse. I played in a couple here in Houston back in the day hard for me to play anymore with all the kid stuff. I play the Alumni game in October where i went to college.

Well, the last three years I've played at the club level at college. Around where I am though, upstate NY, there are lots of different leagues.

I've played in a box league that has a good mix of old and young guys, a competitive box pickup league, and last summer I played in a real competitive outdoor league that has a lot of d1 guys and even a handful that played pro.

Now that I'm out of school it's hard to play as much, I'm not quite good enough to play on some of the competitive travel teams, and I won't be 30 for a while yet, so it's tough to find a good place to play consistently. It will probably be box leagues more often than not, but I like the outdoor game a lot more.

[Kangaroo]

Originally Posted by Future

Well, the last three years I've played at the club level at college. Around where I am though, upstate NY, there are lots of different leagues.

I've played in a box league that has a good mix of old and young guys, a competitive box pickup league, and last summer I played in a real competitive outdoor league that has a lot of d1 guys and even a handful that played pro.

Now that I'm out of school it's hard to play as much, I'm not quite good enough to play on some of the competitive travel teams, and I won't be 30 for a while yet, so it's tough to find a good place to play consistently. It will probably be box leagues more often than not, but I like the outdoor game a lot more.

You will find it funny I learned Lacrosse at Sam Houston State University yes in Texas of all places. It is a growing sport down here and is starting to be played in the Highschools. I also got to run with a club team in Virginia for a few months when i was stationed at Fort Eustis.

I played in the men club level after college for awhile then eventually kids took over. Funny is how much talent we have in the club leagues in Texas from all the transplants I played against a guy that played in the Pro box Lacrosse for a couple years. Played against a guy who was a three year starter on Dline at Princeton, tons of Division I, II and III Lacrosse players filtered in on the teams. Most the teams are in Houston, Dallas or Austin.

[Future]

Originally Posted by Kangaroo

You will find it funny I learned Lacrosse at Sam Houston State University yes in Texas of all places. It is a growing sport down here and is starting to be played in the Highschools. I also got to run with a club team in Virginia for a few months when i was stationed at Fort Eustis.

I played in the men club level after college for awhile then eventually kids took over. Funny is how much talent we have in the club leagues in Texas from all the transplants I played against a guy that played in the Pro box Lacrosse for a couple years. Played against a guy who was a three year starter on Dline at Princeton, tons of Division I, II and III Lacrosse players filtered in on the teams. Most the teams are in Houston, Dallas or Austin.

Other than the East Coast, Texas is one of the stronger areas for lacrosse, I'm not surprised that you've played with some real talent. There was an all american at my college (DIII) who was from Texas. I think California and Oregon, maybe even Arizona, and Nevada, have more talent than Texas still though, and it's getting bigger every year in Chicago.

One thing I'll say, is that I don't think people realize how big lax is on the East Coast. There are high schools, like mine, where guys get recruited simply because they were on the team. As a result, guys who are superstars in smaller regions like Texas don't have the same talent as northern guys. The best players in the league I played in at grad school in the midwest wouldn't have touched the field on my other club team.

Lacrosse is a lifestyle sport, a lot like hockey. While the game is spreading, the lifestyle is not, or at least not as fast. Until lacrosse becomes a major part of the culture and lifestyle of places like Texas, Chicago, and more on the W. Coast, they won't ever have the depth that the E. Coast does.

...sorry for hijacking, but I could talk about this stuff all day.

[jcollins28]

There is actually some really good replies here. I'm 41 and have been training most of my life. I don't use braces for anything. I have had torn muscles, bicep tendinitis you name it.

If you have insurance make an appointment with a Orthopedic that specializes Sports Medicine. Go over your injury history your workout program and you goals. As someone else already posted, work smart and concentrate on your form not how much weight you are lifting.

[Signals]

Originally Posted by Future

...sorry for hijacking, but I could talk about this stuff all day.

Ha, No worries, it happens.

[Signals]

Originally Posted by jcollins28

There is actually some really good replies here. I'm 41 and have been training most of my life. I don't use braces for anything. I have had torn muscles, bicep tendinitis you name it.

If you have insurance make an appointment with a Orthopedic that specializes Sports Medicine. Go over your injury history your workout program and you goals. As someone else already posted, work smart and concentrate on your form not how much weight you are lifting.

You know, as I mentioned at the bottom of my original post, I am currently rehabbing from shoulder surgery from Nov. 2012, and see an orthopedic surgeon every few weeks for follow up on my Physical Therapy. I didn't think of it until now as you mention it, but I'd bet he would answer a few questions as long as I was respectful of his time. I should write out a few well thought out questions and talk to him about it on my next visit.

[jcollins28]

Originally Posted by Signals

You know, as I mentioned at the bottom of my original post, I am currently rehabbing from shoulder surgery from Nov. 2012, and see an orthopedic surgeon every few weeks for follow up on my Physical Therapy. I didn't think of it until now as you mention it, but I'd bet he would answer a few questions as long as I was respectful of his time. I should write out a few well thought out questions and talk to him about it on my next visit.

Your doctor will be able to tell you what type of lifts you should avoid and what lifts could help you most during your recovery. He can also give you advise on supplements as well.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Most Doctors know very little about what is good exercise and what is not, as is exemplified in plenty of their 'exercise handouts' which further damage and cause pain in the long run..

[jcollins28]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

Most Doctors know very little about what is good exercise and what is not, as is exemplified in plenty of their 'exercise handouts' which further damage and cause pain in the long run..

I agree a "G/P" or family doctor is going to be of little help. That is exactly why I said find a ortho that specializes in sports medicine or you can continue to seek out expert advise on a internet forum...

[Signals]

Originally Posted by jcollins28

I agree a "G/P" or family doctor is going to be of little help. That is exactly why I said find a ortho that specializes in sports medicine or you can continue to seek out expert advise on a internet forum...

Actually my surgeon is a sports Doctor. When I switched Dr's back in Sept. 2012, I did that for the very reason of knowing I would want to start lifting weights when I got to that point in my shoulder rehab.

[jcollins28]

Originally Posted by Signals

Actually my surgeon is a sports Doctor. When I switched Dr's back in Sept. 2012, I did that for the very reason of knowing I would want to start lifting weights when I got to that point in my shoulder rehab.

I know, I was responding to the other guy.