Slowly but surely we need to get rid of contracts

[cowboys1981]

For one let Romo play this season without an extension and see how he performs. Although the line has its problems he makes his share of mistakes as well. If all fails then we move on from him and Garrett and go after a QB in either this years draft or next years.

Ratliff will play his final season this year and then I think he is gone. Signing Melton would make for a good 1-2 punch up the middle.

As far as Ware and Witten are concerned I want those 2 playing for us. You don't just cut a TE who broke the receiving record for a TE and a pass rusher who can produce a double digit sack season hobbled. Yet some will say keep Spencer. I say no, had he played the way he did from the get go he and Ware would have been a scary tandem. With that said we are getting rid of the right pass rusher in Spencer. We can't just cut and trade everyone. The cost of the cap hit and replacement makes absolutely no sense.

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by MartinRamone

Next year will be crucial to see how much he is worth, i dont rule him out just yet. He was a dissapointment this year, but i would like to see him fully healthy again before i make up my mind.
And i doubt a first pick in this weak draft is worth getting rid of him.

From the Groin in camp Ware was never healthy the whole year and by the last few games SHOULD have been on IR.

So not worried about Ware

[Galian Beast]

Originally Posted by cowboys1981

For one let Romo play this season without an extension and see how he performs. Although the line has its problems he makes his share of mistakes as well. If all fails then we move on from him and Garrett and go after a QB in either this years draft or next years.

Ratliff will play his final season this year and then I think he is gone. Signing Melton would make for a good 1-2 punch up the middle.

As far as Ware and Witten are concerned I want those 2 playing for us. You don't just cut a TE who broke the receiving record for a TE and a pass rusher who can produce a double digit sack season hobbled. Yet some will say keep Spencer. I say no, had he played the way he did from the get go he and Ware would have been a scary tandem. With that said we are getting rid of the right pass rusher in Spencer. We can't just cut and trade everyone. The cost of the cap hit and replacement makes absolutely no sense.

Giving Romo an extension allows us to use a lot of his cap space to get rid of these contracts this year. See how he does? Romo has had a 90 QB rating or better every year since he became the starter. He'll do as well as the team allows him to.

Those saying keep Ware, to what end? You think his injury problems are going to get better? Not worse as he gets older? It was the same thing the year before.

[cowboys1981]

Restructuring Carr will save us the most. As far as Ware goes, letting him go now would come at a cost. What would be the hit for cutting ties with him? Despite injuries he was still able to be productive and when was the last time he missed a game for us? We need to address other issues before we try to get rid of our sack leader. Ware still has productive seasons under his belt.

[respectdatstar]

We should try to create cap space to lure LeBron away from Miami.

[CaptainMorgan]

Originally Posted by cowboys1981

For one let Romo play this season without an extension and see how he performs. .

I completely agree with this except for the fact that if we dont extend him this season and bring his cap number down its going to hurt our ability to improve the team. I really think for the long term though that we need to see if he can change his habits.

Im really scared to pay a 33 year old QB with a history of bad decisions at the worst times the money he is going to demand to extend. We have to quit making these contract mistakes with older declining veterans.

On the flip side, I remember the Hutchinson / leaf / Wright / Testicleverde years, Im in no hurry to go back there.

[cowboyeric8]

Originally Posted by zrinkill

I want to use the Batman slap pic right now.

But its probably not allowed anymore.

Just like tacos.

[Bigdog24]

Originally Posted by Galian Beast

Ware costs 5.5 million next year, in 2014 he will cost 12.25 million, and in 2015 he will cost 13.75 million. I would say keep him for another year and trade or release him. He is getting old, less effective, and more injury prone. I don't think Ware will be worth 12.25 million in 2014. I don't think it would be right to resign him in 2016. So what recourse is left?

I agree with you...Ware is one of the tools the Cowboys have that can help fix this team (both in Cap and trade value)...... Wouldn't like it...not one bit.. but know one really like's good players to be traded...Jerry will be forced to do something and soon....the Cowboys are up against the CAP wall.

Patriots traded Richard Seymore for a 1st,,,,,,So why not offer to trade Ware to the Patriots for a 1st round and QB Ryan Mallet. Solve two issue with one trade.

[iceberg]

Originally Posted by Galian Beast

Players like Austin, Ratliff, Spears, Free, Bernadeau, Livings, Scandrick, Sensabaugh, and even Ware.

Looking at Austin's contract, we really have no choice but to keep him until probably 2015. It'll be interesting if we can move him in a trade. His contract is very trade friendly. Hell we could even release him out right. I think we can do a lot more on offense with paying offensive linemen rather than paying Austin. He can't be relied on to stay healthy. So I'd say we just work on having guys like Beasley, Harris, and Coale step up, and give Romo a running game.

Jay Ratliff is done. His contract blows up, and we might as well get rid of it sooner rather than later. I'm all aboard getting Melton, especially if we let Ratliff walk. That being said, this is going to be a huge cap hit.

I think cutting Spears goes without saying. We don't need him on the roster anymore, and we certainly don't need to be paying him.

[View Full Quote]Doug Free's contract is a killer too, but I don't think we have any choice but to get rid of this guy now. He will cost 7 million in base salary next year. What a terrible guy he turned out to be...

I have no idea how we signed Nate Livings to so much money. It might be worth keeping him as a backup until 2014, but this signing just glares of incompetence. I gave the F.O. too much credit with this one last year.

I'd also cut Bernadeau this year.

Signing Kyle Orton was also a knee jerk reaction. How much of that money could be going towards actually keeping Romo safe in the first place? At least it was front loaded.

We're going to have to move on from DeMarcus Ware and soon. This has to be Ware's last year in Dallas before his contract blows up to 13 million a year. I'd work feverishly to trade Ware now.

Scandrick and Senabaugh? Releasing Scandrick shouldn't be too hard. Sensabaugh will be a bit tougher, but even more necessary.

i see you and common sense don't get along.

[M'Kevon]

Originally Posted by Galian Beast

Players like Austin, Ratliff, Spears, Free, Bernadeau, Livings, Scandrick, Sensabaugh, and even Ware.

Looking at Austin's contract, we really have no choice but to keep him until probably 2015. It'll be interesting if we can move him in a trade. His contract is very trade friendly. Hell we could even release him out right. I think we can do a lot more on offense with paying offensive linemen rather than paying Austin. He can't be relied on to stay healthy. So I'd say we just work on having guys like Beasley, Harris, and Coale step up, and give Romo a running game.

Jay Ratliff is done. His contract blows up, and we might as well get rid of it sooner rather than later. I'm all aboard getting Melton, especially if we let Ratliff walk. That being said, this is going to be a huge cap hit.

I think cutting Spears goes without saying. We don't need him on the roster anymore, and we certainly don't need to be paying him.

[View Full Quote]Doug Free's contract is a killer too, but I don't think we have any choice but to get rid of this guy now. He will cost 7 million in base salary next year. What a terrible guy he turned out to be...

I have no idea how we signed Nate Livings to so much money. It might be worth keeping him as a backup until 2014, but this signing just glares of incompetence. I gave the F.O. too much credit with this one last year.

I'd also cut Bernadeau this year.

Signing Kyle Orton was also a knee jerk reaction. How much of that money could be going towards actually keeping Romo safe in the first place? At least it was front loaded.

We're going to have to move on from DeMarcus Ware and soon. This has to be Ware's last year in Dallas before his contract blows up to 13 million a year. I'd work feverishly to trade Ware now.

Scandrick and Senabaugh? Releasing Scandrick shouldn't be too hard. Sensabaugh will be a bit tougher, but even more necessary.

This is the worst possible idea I've heard, short of cutting everyone, signing all UFA, and trading all our 2013 draft choices for 2014.

Start brand new as an expansion team, minus the league roster draft.

[CaptainMorgan]

Originally Posted by M'Kevon

This is the worst possible idea I've heard, short of cutting everyone, signing all UFA, and trading all our 2013 draft choices for 2014.

Start brand new as an expansion team, minus the league roster draft.

youre right because the way we have been doing the past 16 years has worked really well.

[Galian Beast]

Originally Posted by iceberg

i see you and common sense don't get along.

Argumentum ad lapidem

[ccb04]

Originally Posted by Galian Beast

Exactly right. If we could get trade value for Witten, not only does that make our team better, frees up money, it also adds speed to the offense.

Not to say that Hanna is better than Witten, rather that the drop off compared to what we get in return sounds palatable.

Witten is coming off of a 110 catch season with a 1,039 yard...I'd say his cost/production is still quite high. Hanna has had some solid catches and I love his athleticism, but he's doing so while guys like Witten, Dez, etc... occupy the defenses focus. It's a different story to be 'the guy' at a position.

Ware played hurt last year period...and still produced what amounts to a very good season for many players with 11.5 sacks & 5 forced fumbles. And of course he had 19.5 sacks in 2011.

By contrast...Jason Pierre-Paul recorded 6.5 sacks last season, with no sacks over the last 7 games.

The Cowboys have handed out some bad long-term deals...but Ware & Witten weren't among those. Guys like Rat, Austin, etc. are far greater problems in terms of cost vs. production.

[Galian Beast]

Originally Posted by ccb04

Witten is coming off of a 110 catch season with a 1,039 yard...I'd say his cost/production is still quite high. Hanna has had some solid catches and I love his athleticism, but he's doing so while guys like Witten, Dez, etc... occupy the defenses focus. It's a different story to be 'the guy' at a position.

Ware played hurt last year period...and still produced what amounts to a very good season for many players with 11.5 sacks & 5 forced fumbles. And of course he had 19.5 sacks in 2011.

By contrast...Jason Pierre-Paul recorded 6.5 sacks last season, with no sacks over the last 7 games.

The Cowboys have handed out some bad long-term deals...but Ware & Witten weren't among those. Guys like Rat, Austin, etc. are far greater problems in terms of cost vs. production.

If we could get similar production that guys like Fasano and Bennett are getting in Miami and New York from Hanna, the benefits of additional resources spent else where would more than make up the difference.

No one is saying they aren't still productive, rather its prudent to get value out of them if we can, while we still can.

[ccb04]

Originally Posted by Galian Beast

If we could get similar production that guys like Fasano and Bennett are getting in Miami and New York from Hanna, the benefits of additional resources spent else where would more than make up the difference.

No one is saying they aren't still productive, rather its prudent to get value out of them if we can, while we still can.

GB...I don't completely disagree with the premise of what you're saying. Get something for your most valuable assets while you can. But I would be more inclined to do so if they decided to blow it up & completely rebuild. If that's not the case then they'd simply be creating more holes and would have to spend some of those additional resources they obtained to fill them. And in this case, we're talking about replacing 2 HOF caliber players...not just 'good' players, but 'great' one's. As you know, it's quite hard to find elite pass rushers for instance.

They would have to definitively define what direction they wanted to go before trading away those types of players IMO.