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Old 01-22-2013   #16
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Ray Lewis and his two buddies stabbed two people to death... Lewis got off with a plea bargain because he testified against his friends. Then he paid off the families.

Vick ran a dog fighting ring and went to jail.

The difference is perception. You'll never go without a comment about Vick but nobody says anything bad about Ray because he plays angry and is a hall of famer. People look at Ray as a role model because of his play on the field and supposedly devout "christian" but let's not forget had that whole murder thing he was never punished for and has 6 kids with 4 different women and was never married to atleast 3 of them....

Plenty of people make mistakes, very horrible ones actually. But it's absolutely ridiculous that a person can get away with murder because of money.
I'm not a fan of Ray Lewis, in any way, and if I Chose the low road on this board, some of you would understand why.
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Old 01-22-2013   #17
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It makes me sick the way the NFL is portraying Ray Lewis as some sot of hero. Lewis admitted to giving police misleading information, took a plea deal, paid settlements to the victims of the families, and said he "lost" the white suit he wore at the time the victims were killed...just another punk playing ball.
Did he do this last week or a decade ago?
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Old 01-22-2013   #18
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Ray Lewis plead guilty to obstruction of justice, went against his two entourage, and they were acquitted. Is it very possible Ray tried to protect his friends who made bad decisions in the heat of moment?

I don't have a problem with the guy for the simple fact that he's turned his life around, stopped being an immature punk, and he actually helps people. He's involved in numerous charities, gives wisdom to his younger teammates in the hopes that they can avoid the same missteps he took, and through it all doesn't take credit for accomplishments and remains humble.

WHY do people continue to harp on something that happened so long ago, and ignore all the good the man has done to redeem himself? It shows the lack of compassion, mercy, and understanding that we all would want if our worst decisions were put on display for the whole world to see.

I can understand the venom towards Ray Lewis if he's been the same type of guy he was back then, still getting in trouble and not understanding how his actions affect others. But that isn't the case here, why can't people forgive someone who didn't even offend them?
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IDK what Ray Lewis did that night someone was stabbed, but he has done many positive things to impact people in his career. I'm not sure why having children with multiple women makes you a bad person, he appears to be there to support his kids, which is more important than counting how many you have IMO.

For those of you who dislike the guy, you can relax, he will be gone soon. Obviously the guy isn't perfect but I have never met someone who is. Its not like our favorite team doesn't have some dubious characters in its history.
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I agree with her as far as Ray Lewis is concerned. I think it's gross how all that gets wallpapered over and how he's still the center of attention on that team. And I can't stand watching him cry on camera after every playoff victory.
I believe that what happened.

I don't think she was that upset that her husband's team lost. I think she was upset that Ray Lewis gets too much attention on T.V. during and after the game.

I love Ray but everytime I see him in post game i just turn the T.V. because it is too much drama.
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I agree with her as far as Ray Lewis is concerned. I think it's gross how all that gets wallpapered over and how he's still the center of attention on that team. And I can't stand watching him cry on camera after every playoff victory.
Agree! Lewis is a thug! I'm thrilled that he'll be out of the NFL next season and I expect him to promptly sign a long term contract with the U.S. penal system.
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No one knows what happened that night and yet people speak as if they know exactly what happened. She was out of line and should've kept her mouth shut, but why did she not bring up her husband dropping a big pass in a game, or Giselle calling him out last year?
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No one knows what happened that night and yet people speak as if they know exactly what happened. She was out of line and should've kept her mouth shut, but why did she not bring up her husband dropping a big pass in a game, or Giselle calling him out last year?
^^^^This! If that is how she really felt about Ray....then say it BEFORE the game. Say it last week. Say it a month ago. If the Pats had won....would she have these same things to say? And when it comes to THAT organization....there is no room for them to talk. Less we all forget how they would run the score up on teams a few years ago. And the whole "spygate" fiasco that the NFL "investigated" and issued a slap on the wrist and told us all to move on. I doubt the other 31 teams in the NFL feel ANY sorrow for the Pats.
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I'm not sure why having children with multiple women makes you a bad person,
Right, ... other that being selfish, irresponsible, immoral, disrespectuful towards women, and short-changing the kids of having a true, real father.

Are you serious?
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Right, ... other that being selfish, irresponsible, immoral, disrespectuful towards women, and short-changing the kids of having a true, real father.

Are you serious?
I had a kid out of wedlock, so I guess that makes me a bad person right? I am selfish, immoral, disrespectful towards women right? I am a horrible father to my son right? I have short changed him right?


What kills me about these caracatures of people who are attacking ray is that they are standing on some huge moral high ground attacking him like they have done nothing wrong. But yet, they willfully LIE in an attempt to make themselves seem righteous so that they can stand on their moral high ground. Newsflash for you guys....you can't lie to make your point and claim a moral high ground.
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I had a kid out of wedlock, so I guess that makes me a bad person right? I am selfish, immoral, disrespectful towards women right? I am a horrible father to my son right? I have short changed him right?
Having one is a far cry from having 6 with 4 different women.

That was my point, .. you should see the difference.

Imagine if you had 5 other kids, with 3 other women? How could you be there for all children and all families?

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Having one is a far cry from having 6 with 4 different women.

That was my point, .. you should see the difference.

What if you had 5 other kids, with 3 other women? How could you be there for all children and all families?
I believe it is 4 and 3. With his income I doubt it is an issue. The 4 kids are family and I am sure he treats them as such. Nothing says he has to spend time with each of them alone. Why can't he spend time with all 4 of them at the same time.
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Right, ... other that being selfish, irresponsible, immoral, disrespectuful towards women, and short-changing the kids of having a true, real father.

Are you serious?
You are revealing what generation you're from bro.

How dare you make reference to absolutes and morals.
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I agree with her as far as Ray Lewis is concerned. I think it's gross how all that gets wallpapered over and how he's still the center of attention on that team. And I can't stand watching him cry on camera after every playoff victory.
I feel the same way about Garrett, except for the play-off victory part...
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Did he do this last week or a decade ago?
Gosh its been at least 30 years.

See how ridiculous that sounds now?

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