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01-22-2013
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#31
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Originally Posted by ethiostar
One of the comments to that article is awesome...lol.
"they must of changed the calls on defense because they GAVE UP 48 points!"
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The defense didn't give up 48 points that day. There were 3 pick sixes the Bucs defense got that day. This is when Oakland got behind 27-3 and had to throw the ball to get back in the game. I just chalk it up as poor execution by the Raiders but the Bucs who had the number 1 defense and Gruden who knew the Raiders and Callahan inside and out.
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01-22-2013
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#32
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Originally Posted by Idgit
Thats what you took from Ritchie's quote? Because I think it pretty much says the opposite.
The game plan might have changed, but that's a far cry from the absolutely infantile claim that the HC threw a Superbowl for his friend because he hated his own organization.
What probably happened is they changed the game plan mid-week when their probowl starting C when AWOL--as they probably should have--and that the reason for the change was never communicated properly to the team.
The rest of the speculation on Tim Brown's part is just stupidity as far as I'm concerned.
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Robbins didn't go AWOL until the day before the Superbowl. One of the things that I heard on ESPN this morning was that Tim Brown said that Callahan changed the game plan on Friday. Brown also implied that this last minute change put pressure on Barrett Robbins essentially causing his mental break.
It all sounds too ridiculous to believe. The thing that we do know is that Callahan is not a good head coach. He is better as an OC.
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I don't really think the initial game plan was to run the ball a lot anyway. The Raiders ranked 23rd in rushing attempts that season. They weren't a running team even though they had a big offensive line.
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01-22-2013
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#33
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Originally Posted by mldardy
The defense didn't give up 48 points that day. There were 3 pick sixes the Bucs defense got that day. This is when Oakland got behind 27-3 and had to throw the ball to get back in the game. I just chalk it up as poor execution by the Raiders but the Bucs who had the number 1 defense and Gruden who knew the Raiders and Callahan inside and out.
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Thanks for the clarification. I don't remember that game much.
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01-22-2013
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#34
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The Raiders rushed 11 times for 19 yards, 1.7 average per carry. They couldn't even run in that game. Now with Robbins going AWOL that certainly affected their ability to run. But I would have to hear Robbins reasons for having his issues.
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01-22-2013
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#35
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Originally Posted by speedkilz88
The Raiders rushed 11 times for 19 yards, 1.7 average per carry. They couldn't even run in that game. Now with Robbins going AWOL that certainly affected their ability to run. But I would have to hear Robbins reasons for having his issues.
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His reasons were he was Bipolar and up until that Superbowl incident had not been properly diagnosed as having that disorder. He also, by his own admission abused alcohol, marijuana, cocaine and steroids in those days.
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01-22-2013
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#36
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The day before Super Bowl XXXVII something rather surprising happened. Oakland Raiders head coach Bill Callahan sent star centre Barrett Robbins home after he went AWOL. Reports indicated that Robbins had ventured south to Tijuana, Mexico for some binge-drinking, but the reality was that he was suffering from depression and bi-polar disorder. Without Robbins snapping the ball, the Raiders fell to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 48-21.
http://sports.ca.msn.com/nfl/photos/...3395656&page=6
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01-22-2013
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#37
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Jerry Rice just said live on ESPN 2 minutes ago that he believes Callahan tried to sabotage the Super Bowl. Is Jerry Rice a tool too?
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01-22-2013
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#38
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Originally Posted by JoeyBoy718
Jerry Rice just said live on ESPN 2 minutes ago that he believes Callahan tried to sabotage the Super Bowl. Is Jerry Rice a tool too?
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Sure he is a tool, he was a 49er.
He doesn't have to be a tool to be wrong. I would say Callahan hurt the Raiders chances of winning the Superbowl, but that is much different than saying he sabotaged their chances of winning.
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01-22-2013
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#39
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Originally Posted by JoeyBoy718
Jerry Rice just said live on ESPN 2 minutes ago that he believes Callahan tried to sabotage the Super Bowl. Is Jerry Rice a tool too?
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It is possible. What exactly did Rice say?
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01-22-2013
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#40
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Sounds to me like a TO style mutiny against the HC.
Brown and Rice were mad because he treated them like guys at the end of their careers and approached the job like they needed to be replaced. They did.
“Cynicism is nothing but intellectual cowardice.”
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01-22-2013
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#41
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Originally Posted by lurkercowboy
It is possible. What exactly did Rice say?
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Jerry Rice says Brown is right
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-sabotaged-us/
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Rice, who was on the Raiders team that lost Super Bowl XXXVII to the Buccaneers, said on ESPN that Callahan disliked his players, disliked his team, and was willing to let his old boss, then-Buccaneers coach Jon Gruden, beat him.
“For some reason — and I don’t know why — Bill Callahan did not like me,” Rice said. “In a way, maybe because he didn’t like the Raiders, he decided, ‘Maybe we should sabotage this a little bit and let Jon Gruden go out and win this one.’”
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01-22-2013
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#42
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Callahan is so overrated but must have been doing something right since the Raiders were the most explosive offense that season.
Brown and others have questioned Callahan as a HC but I don't believe anyone doubts he knows his X's and O's.
If anything, the guy that the Cowboys should bring in as QB coach is Rich Gannon. Unlike Wade Wilson, he was a mobile QB who led one of the most explosive offenses to the SB.
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01-22-2013
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#43
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Originally Posted by HoustonFrog
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In rices view yes in other players View no. So you have 2 guys who have an ax to gride and so what. Callahan offense in Oakland was successful both as an OC and then as the HC. really does not matter what Rice or Browns views are
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01-22-2013
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#44
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Originally Posted by Doomsday101
In rices view yes in other players View no. So you have 2 guys who have an ax to gride and so what. Callahan offense in Oakland was successful both as an OC and then as the HC. really does not matter what Rice or Browns views are
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If the Raiders ran the ball 30 times and lost the game, Brown and Rice would complain that they should have passed the ball more in that game.
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01-22-2013
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#45
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 There's nothing Cowboy homers won't try to spin away from another joke of a decision by Jerry Jones.
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