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Old 01-23-2013   #1
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Default JJT: Spin on Jason Garrett gets blurry

MOBILE, Ala. -- No one outside the Dallas Cowboys' organization believes Jason Garrett gave up his play-calling duties without a fight.

Maybe it was a knock-down, drag-out argument. Perhaps it was a heated exchange of ideas. Or something in between.

But let's not act as if Garrett's identity as an NFL coach hasn't been wrapped up in calling plays because it is -- at least it has been.

Garrett and Jerry Jones can spin it like a top until the end of time, but there's not a single person who has studied this team for any length of time who's going to buy what the Cowboys are selling.

After all, Jerry hired Garrett in 2007 to be the offensive coordinator and playcaller before Wade Phillips signed a contract to become the head coach.

So with his job on the line -- Garrett is getting fired if the Cowboys don't make the playoffs -- he's willingly going to put his future in the hands of Bill Callahan, Hue Jackson or some mystery candidate who's going to call plays?

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/...calling-duties

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Old 01-23-2013   #2
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So JJT doesn't actually know?

Man his articles are the gold standard of quality.
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MOBILE, Ala.Garrett and Jerry Jones can spin it like a top until the end of time, but there's not a single person who has studied this team for any length of time who's going to buy what the Cowboys are selling.
Yes there is Frenchman. And it won't be long before they come tell you you have no clue.

Because even though you are allowed into Valley Ranch and able to talk with players, coaches, and management, they will come here and tell us all how it works out there.
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"No one outside the Dallas Cowboys organization believes..."

Right, those on the outside - looking in. Key phrase.

"...but there's not a single person who has studied this team for any length of time who's going to buy what the Cowboys are selling."

Right, studied the Cowboys, not informed.
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I agree with him completely. This little nugget here is what I've been pointing out to people all off-season who think our offense wasn't an issue

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The Cowboys consistently started slowly, especially at home, where they faced deficits of 7-0 (Tampa Bay Buccaneers), 24-7 (Chicago Bears), 23-0 (New York Giants), 13-0 (Cleveland Browns), 28-3 (Washington Redskins), 14-3 (Philadelphia Eagles) and 31-17 (New Orleans Saints).

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Look at the final four teams in the playoffs this year and, once again, all the teams had a separate Head Coach and OC.

This is a good thing for both Garrett and the Cowboys.
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Look at the final four teams in the playoffs this year and, once again, all the teams had a separate Head Coach and OC.

This is a good thing for both Garrett and the Cowboys.
The top coaches like Belicheck always have done it that way...Jimmy told Garrett to do it that way. Not sure why it took this long after we iced our own kicker.
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The top coaches like Belicheck always have done it that way...Jimmy told Garrett to do it that way. Not sure why it took this long after we iced our own kicker.
Belichick calls the patriots Defenses, or at least has in the past.

Tom Landry called Offense and Defense for many years. I miss that man.
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No interpretations needed. The results from what goes on at VR are crystal clear to all but the most blind.
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Belichick calls the patriots Defenses, or at least has in the past.

Tom Landry called Offense and Defense for many years. I miss that man.

I believe Belichick has even called the offense in a previous season.
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I believe Belichick has even called the offense in a previous season.
Yes, he did the year Weis left.
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Tom Landry called Offense and Defense for many years. I miss that man.
This is something we agree on. I can't speak about what happens behind closed doors, but from appearance alone, that legend had dignity written all over his face.
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Belichick calls the patriots Defenses, or at least has in the past.

Tom Landry called Offense and Defense for many years. I miss that man.
Well Belicheck and Landry comparisons don't really apply, IMO. Jason Garrett is a very inexperienced head coach and just in coaching period and it's shown up in various games.

So while I haven't really had an issue with him as an OC, I think that it'll be a good thing for him to sit back and actually watch someone else do it, while he masters the head coaching hat.
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If only there were, oh, I don't know....a public record that kept track of things like these. Or people, who were paid, to look into them, and then write about them for other people to read. Only then would we really have any evidence to indicate one way or another what the owner/GM and Head Coach actually thought about play calling responsibilities prior to today.

If only anybody outside of the organization believed these things existed. But, alas, they do not. What are you gonna do? I guess we'll just have to take our best guess at what might have happened and assume that, whatever it was, it's unflattering to the team. We did just finish 8-8 for the second year in a row, after all. Ho-hum.
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Look at the final four teams in the playoffs this year and, once again, all the teams had a separate Head Coach and OC.

This is a good thing for both Garrett and the Cowboys.

And they all had coaches that at least double Garretts 7 years of experience, which is bad for both Garrett and the Cowboys.
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