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01-23-2013
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#106
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Originally Posted by Eric_Boyer
if you can't figure that out by now, I'm not wasting time explaining the obvious.
for the others, society has certain views on what constitutes a good role model. Ray Lewis will never be one for the vast majority living in this country (yay!!!)
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I was not talking about Ray Lewis with that question. I was talking about the other poster you directed the post at.
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HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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01-23-2013
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#107
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Originally Posted by rocboy22
I was not talking about Ray Lewis with that question. I was talking about the other poster you directed the post at.
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I would not use his personal relationships as a good role model for my children as well.
if he takes offense to that, tough
"Who controls the past controls the future, who controls the present controls the past."
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01-23-2013
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#108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric_Boyer
I would not use his personal relationships as a good role model for my children as well.
if he takes offense to that, tough
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you don't know anything about his personal relationship. wow, the gall of some people blows my mind...
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01-23-2013
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#109
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Lightning Rod
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Vancouver BC |
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[quote=Eric_Boyer;4980166]
same for vick bashers I guess. They are just jealous.
And don't dare criticize Rattlif and his dui.
like it or not, (I like it), society looks down on those people that sleep around and have children while not belonging to a committed relationship.[/QUOTE]
only certain groups look down on them, not all society
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01-23-2013
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#110
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Originally Posted by rocboy22
you don't know anything about his personal relationship. wow, the gall of some people blows my mind...
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I know what he shared, which is enough to know it isn’t a model of how I want my children’s relationships to turn out.
"Who controls the past controls the future, who controls the present controls the past."
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01-23-2013
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#111
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Originally Posted by Eric_Boyer
I know what he shared, which is enough to know it isn’t a model of how I want my children’s relationships to turn out.
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and you claimed he made a bad decision. how about you go tell his son that he was a bad decision??? this crap is sickening
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01-23-2013
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#112
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Originally Posted by CanadianCowboysFan
only certain groups look down on them, not all society
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"all of society" makes no sense to me. I don't deal in absolutes (they are always wrong :-) )
"Who controls the past controls the future, who controls the present controls the past."
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01-23-2013
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#113
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rocboy22
and you claimed he made a bad decision. how about you go tell his son that he was a bad decision??? this crap is sickening
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Ratliff also made a bad decision. Do I have to go tell him in person, or can I share my opinion on this forum. 
"Who controls the past controls the future, who controls the present controls the past."
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01-23-2013
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#114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric_Boyer
same for vick bashers I guess. They are just jealous.
And don't dare criticize Rattlif and his dui.
like it or not, (I like it), society looks down on those people that sleep around and have children while not belonging to a committed relationship.
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Let's leave Vick and Ratliff out of the discussion as they are completely different situations and will only serve to cloud the issue.
Now then, since you "like it" that society looks down on "those people," do you support Mrs. Welker's actions?
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01-23-2013
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#115
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Originally Posted by Diogenes
Let's leave Vick and Ratliff out of the discussion as they are completely different situations and will only serve to cloud the issue.
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no. they are a great example of how people judge people all the time around here.
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Now then, since you "like it" that society looks down on "those people," do you support Mrs. Welker's actions?
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The problem with her actions is they were motivated by competition, not a sense of right and wrong.
If she penned an op ed to the paper explaining how Ray Lewis is a poor role model and the league is hypocritical pumping him up as someone to look up to, I would of respected it more.
I’m not defending her, I’m defending WV Cowboy and his desire to share his personal views on what constitutes a good role model.
"Who controls the past controls the future, who controls the present controls the past."
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01-23-2013
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#116
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Cab to Kinko's
Joined: | Apr 2005 |
Location: | State College, P |
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Originally Posted by Eric_Boyer
no. they are a great example of how people judge people all the time around here.
The problem with her actions is they were motivated by competition, not a sense of right and wrong.
If she penned an op ed to the paper explaining how Ray Lewis is a poor role model and the league is hypocritical pumping him up as someone to look up to, I would of respected it more.
I’m not defending her, I’m defending WV Cowboy and his desire to share his personal views on what constitutes a good role model.
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Someone who made mistakes when they were young and has gone on to become a more mature adult, help many many needy families and disadvantaged youth through founding his own charity and giving up much of his own time and wealth to help people is a bad role model now?
Mrs. Welker is as hypocritical as the rest of us.. she takes offense because she feels the man doesn't respect women, yet everything she has in life, she's gotten because she flaunts her body to flame men's sexual desires.
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01-23-2013
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#117
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Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer
Someone who made mistakes when they were young and has gone on to become a more mature adult, help many many needy families and disadvantaged youth through founding his own charity and giving up much of his own time and wealth to help people is a bad role model now?
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What constitutes a good role model is a personal thing.
A person that fathered 6 kids from 4 different women will never be a good role model to me.
If this offends someone that fathered 2 kids from two different women, tough. It’s my opinion, and I am comfortable sharing it.
YMMV.
A person that got multiple DUI’s, no longer how long ago, also will be a poor role model to me.
If that offends people on this site that got 1 DUI, tough.
"Who controls the past controls the future, who controls the present controls the past."
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01-23-2013
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#118
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Cab to Kinko's
Joined: | Apr 2005 |
Location: | State College, P |
Posts: | 11,273 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric_Boyer
What constitutes a good role model is a personal thing.
A person that fathered 6 kids from 4 different women will never be a good role model to me.
If this offends someone that fathered 2 kids from two different women, tough. It’s my opinion, and I am comfortable sharing it.
YMMV.
A person that got multiple DUI’s, no longer how long ago, also will be a poor role model to me.
If that offends people on this site that got 1 DUI, tough.
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Your opinion is noted.. and offered in a way that i respect it, even though i disagree with it.
Far different from someone coming on here saying, "This is right, and this is wrong, and this is a bad man, and this is a good man, etc.."
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01-23-2013
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#119
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Lightning Rod
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Vancouver BC |
Posts: | 14,083 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric_Boyer
no. they are a great example of how people judge people all the time around here.
The problem with her actions is they were motivated by competition, not a sense of right and wrong.
If she penned an op ed to the paper explaining how Ray Lewis is a poor role model and the league is hypocritical pumping him up as someone to look up to, I would of respected it more.
I’m not defending her, I’m defending WV Cowboy and his desire to share his personal views on what constitutes a good role model.
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except WVCowboy's view of good role model is based on a 1950s model of the world where there are good boys/bad boys and good girls/bad girls. It is hard to listen to advice on women to someone who probably has only ever had one girlfriend and been only with one woman.
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01-23-2013
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#120
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadianCowboysFan
except WVCowboy's view of good role model is based on a 1950s model of the world where there are good boys/bad boys and good girls/bad girls. It is hard to listen to advice on women to someone who probably has only ever had one girlfriend and been only with one woman.
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This is so much more of a personal attack then anything WV did to anyone on here.
Personally, I think we act too rashly in throwing out traditions myself. The 1950’s model of personal responsibility is not something I look down upon.
"Who controls the past controls the future, who controls the present controls the past."
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