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01-24-2013
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#106
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Believe!!!!
Joined: | Feb 2006 |
Location: | Cookies? |
Posts: | 20,488 |
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Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING
It's comforting to know Jerry is confident in Livings/Bernadeau. After all, this is the same GM who brought us the following glowing reviews of our offensive linemen the last few years:
On David Arkin:
On Phil Costa:
On Doug Free (from Dec. 2011, year after he signed his big contract):
On Ronald Leary:
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Did u see what Tom ciskowski said about arkin? It's not just Jerry that isn't up to par out there.
Ciskowski said he would be an immediate help and they had him rated as a round higher.
Of course this is the same guy that openly said we are looking for backups in the draft before 09, then proceeded to tell everyone how good Brewster and Williams will be.
the reasons we are struggling start with these people.
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01-24-2013
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#107
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2006 |
Posts: | 2,191 |
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Originally Posted by superpunk
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great. the GM fires everybody else, faults them for not accomplishing everything. yet he praises his own signings and doesn't find a fault with them!!! awsome. another year of this OL craap.
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01-24-2013
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#108
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iPhotoshop
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Posts: | 5,684 |
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Originally Posted by Hostile
There is no way on this earth we are changing 4 OL this year. So we have to decide 1, 2, or 3 again like 2 years ago. My bet is it will be 2 and RT and C.
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I think there will be 2 new starters on the OL but one is already on the team, Parnell. Costa will be starting at center. And Bernedeau will be the Rg in 2013. The change im willing to bet is at LG. I think Dallas gets one of these top Gs
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01-24-2013
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#109
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2008 |
Location: | valley ranch |
Posts: | 3,925 |
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Originally Posted by Risen Star
Please. Have mercy on me. I can't take much more.
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Same here,Jerry has no clue about good Ol play.
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01-24-2013
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#110
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The Excellence of Execution
Joined: | Mar 2005 |
Posts: | 7,719 |
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Originally Posted by LatinMind
I think there will be 2 new starters on the OL but one is already on the team, Parnell. Costa will be starting at center. And Bernedeau will be the Rg in 2013. The change im willing to bet is at LG. I think Dallas gets one of these top Gs
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I hope Costa isn't handed the starting center position.
1. Brandon Magee will beat out Ernie Sims for the backup WILL/MO roster spot.
2. Ron Leary will start at right guard over Bernadeau.
3. Joseph Randle, Terrance Williams and Gavin Escobar will have more combined TD's than DeMarco Murray, Miles Austin and Jason Witten.
4. Bruce Carter makes the Pro Bowl.
5. The starting OL will be Smith-Livings-Frederick-Leary-Free
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01-24-2013
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#111
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Senior Member
Joined: | Aug 2010 |
Posts: | 1,239 |
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If Costa starts at center next year someone needs a punch in the face.
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01-24-2013
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#112
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Surrealist
Years Donated 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013
Joined: | Nov 2005 |
Posts: | 43,250 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boys122
If Costa starts at center next year someone needs a punch in the face.
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If he's healthy, he'll be a pro bowl quality center.
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01-24-2013
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#113
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Senior Member
Joined: | Mar 2008 |
Location: | Lewisville, Tx. |
Posts: | 1,623 |
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Originally Posted by TheSport78
I hope Costa isn't handed the starting center position.
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Pretty sure there will be plenty of competition for the C spot, with Kolwaski, Bernadeau, and Cook. And maybe a draftee, and/or a vet. brought in.
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01-24-2013
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#114
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2011 |
Posts: | 118 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theebs
Did u see what Tom ciskowski said about arkin? It's not just Jerry that isn't up to par out there.
Ciskowski said he would be an immediate help and they had him rated as a round higher.
Of course this is the same guy that openly said we are looking for backups in the draft before 09, then proceeded to tell everyone how good Brewster and Williams will be.
the reasons we are struggling start with these people.
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THANK YOU. Finally someone calls out Ciskowski.
Say what you like about Jerry, but he isn't the guy who makes the board.
Jerry gets ripped, Garrett gets ripped, and Ciskowski flies under the radar.
I wouldn't say him and his staff are totally inept, but when it comes to grading OL, I don't think even a crystal ball would help them.
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01-24-2013
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#115
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Senior Member
Joined: | Oct 2005 |
Location: | South O |
Posts: | 26,136 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theogt
If he's healthy, he'll be a pro bowl quality center.
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And I thought I smoked alot.
victory is ours
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01-24-2013
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#116
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
Posts: | 14,778 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jjktkk
Pretty sure there will be plenty of competition for the C spot, with Kolwaski, Bernadeau, and Cook. And maybe a draftee, and/or a vet. brought in.
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That looks like the casting call for Dumb and Dumberer.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-24-2013
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#117
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Senior Member
Years Donated 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 23,315 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Disturbed
The way the Cowboys pick up OL in FA it is a waste of money and resources. They need to stick to picking OL early in draft to fix line.
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I think you can do pretty well taking guys later in the draft at OL -- interior line especially. However, this requires a few things. You have to have quantity. Taking OL in the 4th - 7th round works if you take at least one guy each year. We did that in 2011 with Arkin and Nagy. But between 2008 and 2010 we took 1 OL guy (Sam Young) in those rounds. In 2007, again it was one guy (Free). Hard to hit in those later rounds when you aren't taking anyone.
The occasional high round pick helps as well, but we haven't had much success there outside of Smith. Marten and Brewster were the only other 1-3 guys taken since 2005.
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01-24-2013
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#118
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
Posts: | 14,778 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fivetwos
THANK YOU. Finally someone calls out Ciskowski.
Say what you like about Jerry, but he isn't the guy who makes the board.
Jerry gets ripped, Garrett gets ripped, and Ciskowski flies under the radar.
I wouldn't say him and his staff are totally inept, but when it comes to grading OL, I don't think even a crystal ball would help them.
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Even if that's true, who keeps him in the position to set our board?
There is no passing of the buck when it comes to the GM. If you want that position, you take the responsibility that comes with it.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-24-2013
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#119
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
Posts: | 14,778 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AbeBeta
I think you can do pretty well taking guys later in the draft at OL -- interior line especially. However, this requires a few things. You have to have quantity. Taking OL in the 4th - 7th round works if you take at least one guy each year. We did that in 2011 with Arkin and Nagy. But between 2008 and 2010 we took 1 OL guy (Sam Young) in those rounds. In 2007, again it was one guy (Free). Hard to hit in those later rounds when you aren't taking anyone.
The occasional high round pick helps as well, but we haven't had much success there outside of Smith. Marten and Brewster were the only other 1-3 guys taken since 2005.
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Other teams seem to be able to do it. We can't. So let's not assume we can do what other talent evaluators can. Let's play the hand we've been dealt and address the most glaring need on this roster with the best prospects we can find.
Our success rate in the 1st and 2nd round under Jerry is much better than anything taken after.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-24-2013
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#120
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2011 |
Posts: | 118 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
Even if that's true, who keeps him in the position to set our board?
There is no passing of the buck when it comes to the GM. If you want that position, you take the responsibility that comes with it.
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Oh absolutely. Jerry's the issue, and it's not even a debate as far as I'm concerned, but my point there was how Ciskowski goes unscathed far too often.
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