Troy Aikman: Not sure coaching changes make Cowboys better - Page 3 - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Yakuza Rich · 01-24-2013

The entire argument is silly since we haven't hit the draft or FA, yet.

Unless you think we had the best coaching staff in the league last year, there is always reason to upgrade the coaching. And I don't see how Callahan is all that responsible for the mess. He's been here for 1-year as was the O-Line coach.

And we purely lost some people because they wanted to go elsewhere, like DeCamillis.

To me, there needs to be changes in the coaching staff and in the roster. You can only make coaching changes at this current time. Give it another 6 weeks and that will hopefully change.

YR

DFWJC · 01-24-2013

No news here; we must upgrade the oline.
We don't need a line full of Pro Bowlers but we do need a line with no major weak links, and one that works as a cohesive unit.

We have nothing close to that right now.

The upcoming draft and FA market could provide a turing point for these Cowboys...hopefully for the better.

Risen Star · 01-24-2013

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Originally Posted by ninja

I guess Troy Aikman thinks "coaching is overrated" like Dan Marino. Some do. Not a knock on that school of thought.

That's not what he's saying at all. He's saying the missing piece of the puzzle in Dallas is talent. Coaching changes don't matter much if you feel the coaches already there are quality.

The missing piece of the puzzle for the early 90's Cowboys was Norv Turner. The talent was there and blossoming.

It takes both. The 2012 Dallas Cowboys had one and not the other, IMO.

Risen Star · 01-24-2013

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Originally Posted by Yakuza Rich

The entire argument is silly since we haven't hit the draft or FA, yet.

Unless you think we had the best coaching staff in the league last year, there is always reason to upgrade the coaching. And I don't see how Callahan is all that responsible for the mess. He's been here for 1-year as was the O-Line coach.

Best staff in the league? I wouldn't go there. But if you feel you have a quality staff, there's something to be said for continuity. Especially in a win or else season next year.

I heard the same rallying cry against Hudson Houck when he retired and how Bill Callahan was going to have all the answers. He didn't. He won't have any answers next year either if the players don't change.

Zordon · 01-24-2013

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Coaching wasn't an issue last year. That's a fan and fake GM cop out. These new coaches will fail too unless we upgrade the roster.

jerry is doing what he's been doing the last 15 years. throwing more coaching at a personnel problem. people who think jerry is sending smokescreens from his comments about the oline are setting themselves up for dissappointment. hopefully people now know why i guarantee jason will be fired a year from now. any coach who works under this psychopath is being set up to fail.

Risen Star · 01-24-2013

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Originally Posted by Zordon

jerry is doing what he's been doing the last 15 years. throwing more coaching at a personnel problem. people who think jerry is sending smokescreens from his comments about the oline are setting themselves up for dissappointment. hopefully people now know why i guarantee jason will be fired a year from now. any coach who works under this psychopath is being set up to fail.

Right. Because he can not evaluate talent and neither can his own VP of Personnel. He's also surrounded himself with yes men. Nobody's got the stones to tell him what he's done with this team and how far away it really is from being a contender.

I'm sure he's going to go into FA with the thinking that a tweak here and there is all that's needed. Get healthy and coach em up. Same story. Different year. Jason Garrett's expiration date is 1/14. And the masses will rejoice.

Doomsday101 · 01-24-2013

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Originally Posted by AMERICAS_FAN

That was Aikman's feelings about the coaching changes in Big D. He just said this on the radio (The Ticket). He basically felt its still the same players running the same plays

I got the sense he felt that talent upgrade would make them better, but as far as coaching it won't matter because Callahan will be calling the same plays he had influence on last season.

This is in line with a lot of what I've been saying, that more than anything this team needs to upgrade the trenches, namely the OL, with DL a close second, and finally upgrades at one WR and FS spot.

I agree. We can talk play calling all day long but in the end if players do not execute then it does not matter what plays are being called or who is calling them. A play only works if the players go out and do the job of execution. You blow assignments and the play is doomed.

Funny how early in the season Dallas struggled to put up points and yet over the last 8 games as Dez finally stepped up his game and became a big weapon the Cowboys avg 28 points per game over the final 8.

To get consistency out of the offense they must make improvements along the OL.

Chocolate Lab · 01-24-2013

Troy's surprise at the defensive changes and disapproval of the offensive ones are more proof that these aren't Garrett's ideas. (As if we needed more proof.)

jjktkk · 01-24-2013

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Originally Posted by Boys122

But our brilliant GM wanted to bring more experienced coaches around Jason so he can concentrate on overseeing everything.

Why won't he come to the conclusion that we need better players? It's like we're in a race in quick sand and no one is expected to win.

Instead of constantly whining about Jerry, why noy wait and see what personnel changes happen in free agency, and the draft?

ninja · 01-24-2013

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Originally Posted by Risen Star

The missing piece of the puzzle for the early 90's Cowboys was Norv Turner. The talent was there and blossoming.

That team was so stacked with talent, any of 100 offensive coordinators could have won with that team.

And Norv hasn't won jack since he left the Cowboys. Just saying.

InmanRoshi · 01-24-2013

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That team was so stacked with talent, any of 100 offensive coordinators could have won with that team.

I take it you guys never watched Mark Tuinei, Nate Newton and Kevin Gogan early in their careers. And John Gesek was so stacked with talent he was exposed on Plan B.

Doomsday101 · 01-24-2013

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I take it you guys never watched Mark Tuinei, Nate Newton and Kevin Gogan early in their careers. And John Gesek was so stacked with talent he was exposed on Plan B.

True, it took time for them to develop. I can recall when fans wanted the gone

mahoneybill · 01-24-2013

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Originally Posted by Airbag

What does Aikman know? Cowboys Zone has determined the problem is Garrett and his play calling and anyone who can't see that is clueless. Aikman needs to join this forum and get a football education.

links18 · 01-24-2013

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Originally Posted by AMERICAS_FAN

If Aikman joined CZ.com, what would be the over/under in minutes before the clueless Haters on this site call him an idiot?

I'd give it 5 minutes.

He doesn't have to join CZ to be called a stupid, Eagles loving, Cowboys hater.

rcaldw · 01-24-2013

Just for my 2 cents...

I think the defensive change is probably a good one, although I like the chemistry the team had this season and I thought it was going to improve.

I don't like the offensive changes.

And I don't like shaking the whole staff up.

Just my opinion, but I think it is an overreaction and I think it was premature. I really believed we were close to turning the corner.

But my hope is that it works like a charm and we are in the playoffs next year.