Welkers Wife goes on Rant after loss

[Holdenteller67]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

Love and respect the hell out of Ray Lewis as a football player. Guy plays the way i wish everyone on our team played.

Off the field, he made a mistake getting in a "rumble".. but he's also done alot of charity work and helped alot of families and children in need, too.

Hope he gets his championship.

I agree. Good post.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

You raised your family a certain way, and guess what? It worked for you.

Congratulations.. really.

However, there are other families who raise their children in many different ways, and guess what? It works out for them alot of the time too.

Im glad you're comfortable with the way you formed your family and the way you raised your children.. but your way isn't the only "right" way and everyone else who doesn't do it specifically like you isn't doing it the "wrong" way.. so sit back in your smug little throne high above us all and continue to act like you are fit to judge anything other than your own choices..

..and most of us will continue to mock your ignorance. I just pray its not something you passed on to your children.

You need to respect those that are wiser and older than you. You are too young and dumb to the ways of the world. You have alot of nerve to call his views ignorant when you haven't been around long enough to know the difference.

[WV Cowboy]

Originally Posted by RoyTheHammer

but your way isn't the only "right" way and everyone else who doesn't do it specifically like you isn't doing it the "wrong" way.. so sit back in your smug little throne high above us all and continue to act like you are fit to judge anything other than your own choices..

First, I never said my way was the only right way.

Also, I never mentioned that anyone not specifically like me is doing it the wrong way.

You are over-reacting and exaggerating.

I have only stated that having 6 kids with 4 different women, none your wife, .. is wrong. I continue to stand by that. I would say the same if I had 6 kids by 4 different women. I am not judging the person doing it, just saying that it is wrong. There is a difference.

LOL, LOL, you are really something else, .. what I'm not sure.

You accuse me of judging, which I am not. And then proceed to judge me, Welkers wife, the parents and families of Richard Lollar and Jacinth Baker. Did I miss anyone?

Talk about a throne.


Bottom line, in this thread, my only point all along has been that whether it was Ray Lewis, me, you, or Jerry Jones, .. any man having 6 kids, 4 women, no wives, .. is wrong. On many levels.

[Eric_Boyer]

Originally Posted by WV Cowboy

You accuse me of judging, which I am not. And then proceed to judge me, Welkers wife, the parents and families of Richard Lollar and Jacinth Baker. Did I miss anyone?

You can’t claim something is wrong, and also claim you are not judging.

The determination between right and wrong requires a judgment.

[WV Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Eric_Boyer

You can’t claim something is wrong, and also claim you are not judging.

The determination between right and wrong requires a judgment.

To know right from wrong is not judging.

To state what is right and what is wrong is not judging.

If I said whoever has 6 kids, 4 women, no wives is going to hell, .. that is judging.

I haven't judged the man, .. as a matter of fact I have stated a few times in this thread I don't really have any opinion of Ray Lewis either way. Don't really care about him. Even said we could remove Ray Lewis from the equation, and it would not change my stance on 6 kids, 4 women.

I even said if it were me, I would feel the same.

All I am stating is what is right -vs- wrong.

I guess I am surprised, and was caught of guard that some see having 6 kids with 4 women as ok.

[Eric_Boyer]

Originally Posted by WV Cowboy

To know right from wrong is not judging.

To state what is right and what is wrong is not judging.

If I said whoever has 6 kids, 4 women, no wives is going to hell, .. that is judging..

Umm, there are more definitions of judgment then the biblical one.

You are making a judgement here. What you are doing matches one definition of judgement to a T.

[WV Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Eric_Boyer

Umm, there are more definitions of judgment then the biblical one.

You are making a judgement here. What you are doing matches one definition of judgement to a T.

As I said, knowing right from wrong is not judging.

This is not just my opinion or something. This is way bigger than me. This is what I have been taught by my parents, teachers, pastors, many of those in authority over me, ... and found to be true.

I don't think knowing right from wrong is judging.

Just let it be known that I am not passing judgment on Ray Lewis.

I don't concern myself with what others are doing, I have enough trouble keeping myself in line.

But multiple kids, multiple women, no wives, .. is wrong. Much of what I have stated in this thread is just describing the consequences of this wrong.

[Eric_Boyer]

Originally Posted by WV Cowboy

As I said, knowing right from wrong is not judging.

This is not just my opinion or something. This is way bigger than me. This is what I have been taught by my parents, teachers, pastors, many of those in authority over me, ... and found to be true.

I don't think knowing right from wrong is judging.

Just let it be known that I am not passing judgment on Ray Lewis.

I don't concern myself with what others are doing, I have enough trouble keeping myself in line.

But multiple kids, multiple women, no wives, .. is wrong. Much of what I have stated in this thread is just describing the consequences of this wrong.

There is no way we can proceed with such a discussion on this site, so I will just say I respectfully disagree with your views on universal morality.

[WV Cowboy]

Originally Posted by Eric_Boyer

There is no way we can proceed with such a discussion on this site, so I will just say I respectfully disagree with your views on universal morality.

That's cool.

A lot probably do. That's the world we live in now.

[Eric_Boyer]

Originally Posted by WV Cowboy

That's cool.

A lot probably do. That's the world we live in now.

it's the way we have always lived.

a great example is how we once thought 13 year old girls were ready for marriage.

today that is simply not acceptable.

morality changes. alot.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Originally Posted by Eric_Boyer

You can’t claim something is wrong, and also claim you are not judging.

The determination between right and wrong requires a judgment.

Nail, meet hammer.

[Eric_Boyer]

Originally Posted by Kristen82

6 kids by 4 women. It's adorable how the first words from all of them were, "Don't say nothin'."

bump. I laughed

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by Eric_Boyer

I seriously doubt it went down as you suggest.

From my understanding, Ray Lewis had his foot stepped on, and he and his people escalated matters from there.

Ray Lewis' two friends, who he testified against, walked and were aquitted of charges after two men were murdered because they said it was self defense.

..I highly doubt it went down as you suggest, sir. I also see no proof of your claim anywhere i search on the subject.

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by WV Cowboy

First, I never said my way was the only right way.

Also, I never mentioned that anyone not specifically like me is doing it the wrong way.

You are over-reacting and exaggerating.

I have only stated that having 6 kids with 4 different women, none your wife, .. is wrong. I continue to stand by that. I would say the same if I had 6 kids by 4 different women. I am not judging the person doing it, just saying that it is wrong. There is a difference.

LOL, LOL, you are really something else, .. what I'm not sure.

You accuse me of judging, which I am not. And then proceed to judge me, Welkers wife, the parents and families of Richard Lollar and Jacinth Baker. Did I miss anyone?


Bottom line, in this thread, my only point all along has been that whether it was Ray Lewis, me, you, or Jerry Jones, .. any man having 6 kids, 4 women, no wives, .. is wrong. On many levels.

It seems no one in the entire thread really agrees with what you're saying.

Anyone with half a brain can clearly see you are judging the man's character.

[RoyTheHammer]

Originally Posted by jnday

You need to respect those that are wiser and older than you. You are too young and dumb to the ways of the world. You have alot of nerve to call his views ignorant when you haven't been around long enough to know the difference.

Who are you and why do you speak as if you know me at all?