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Old 01-25-2013   #31
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Didn't say medical doctor.

A doctor that knows about psychological disorders. What on earth could that mean?
Actually if the doctorate of philosophy counts, I'm a doctor as well.

There are JDs all over this forum as well. Maybe they should be out chasing ambulances or making laughable television commercials?

I think @smartfootball is a lawyer, and he managed to write a book about football.

Oh yes, and there is that Mike Leach feller, who is a doctor and also coaches football.

Tom Osborne also comes to mind

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Old 01-25-2013   #32
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I've seen a lot of dumb stuff on here but this tops them all.
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Old 01-25-2013   #33
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Actually if the doctorate of philosophy counts, I'm a doctor as well.
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Bipolar disorder is no joke. It's a terrible disease, so let's hope for his sake that he doesn't suffer from it. Personally, I think he's just an arrogant professional football player with a big ego like many of the guys in the NFL. He can be hard to deal with at times.
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I'm certainly no expert on bipolar disorder, but after Jay's incident with Jerry, followed by his dui arrest, it got me thinking. Someone quoted Demarcus Ware as saying some days you get "good Jay" and some days you get "bad Jay." Ratliff has always been a solid, stand-up type guy during his career, now all of a sudden his behavior seems out of character, bordering on irrational at times. I'm reminded of a couple of other d-linemen we had a few years ago who were bipolar. Their names escape me right now. I think one was Underwood. When on their meds they were very good players. When off their meds they did lots of things that were self-destructive. Anyone have any insight?
if you aren't an expert, why are you commenting?

Of course, if he is bi-polar, he should posting here, he would fit right in.
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I'm certainly no expert on bipolar disorder, but after Jay's incident with Jerry, followed by his dui arrest, it got me thinking. Someone quoted Demarcus Ware as saying some days you get "good Jay" and some days you get "bad Jay." Ratliff has always been a solid, stand-up type guy during his career, now all of a sudden his behavior seems out of character, bordering on irrational at times. I'm reminded of a couple of other d-linemen we had a few years ago who were bipolar. Their names escape me right now. I think one was Underwood. When on their meds they were very good players. When off their meds they did lots of things that were self-destructive. Anyone have any insight?
Does Bipolar mean you do stupid s*** on a consistent basis?
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if you aren't an expert, why are you commenting?

Of course, if he is bi-polar, he should posting here, he would fit right in.
I wasn't commenting, I was asking a question. I asked BECAUSE I didn't know. I never said he was bipolar. I asked for people smarter than me to comment about whether it was possible. I find that by asking questions I learn things that I didn't know. I didn't know you have to already know the answer in order to be allowed to ask. My mistake.
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I don't know how you could conclude he was bipolar with the limited information at hand. Anger is not a disease or usually pathological so a verbal altercation with another is not even a red flag. Getting arrested is not even particularly hard at times so I don't know what to infer from the arrest. I haven't even heard what the BA is which is a little unusual.

So I don't think there is much here.
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I could see that...bipolar, but I could also see him just being an angry fool. I like to watch him when he is interviewed I keep waiting for his head to start spinning. He always has that crazed look in his eyes.
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Can we quit equating a lockerroom with a normal workplace experience? okthanxbye.
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OK. Forget about the location of the incident. In your world, let's pretend it didn't happen at the workplace. And let's pretend it wasn't his boss.

So, we are left with 300 lb., 32-yr old professional football player challenging a 70-yr old 170 pound guy to a fight. Yeah, that sounds so much better. Move over Bob Lilly and Randy White, make way for the he-man Jay Ratliff.

But, while we are pretending. Lets pretend Ratliff is still a good football player. Let's pretend he can practice without getting hurt. Let's pretend he can actually play in more than 6 games in a year. Let's pretend that he can get more sacks than personal fouls. Let's pretend he isn't scheduled to make millions for nothing.

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I don't know how you could conclude he was bipolar with the limited information at hand. Anger is not a disease or usually pathological so a verbal altercation with another is not even a red flag. Getting arrested is not even particularly hard at times so I don't know what to infer from the arrest. I haven't even heard what the BA is which is a little unusual.

So I don't think there is much here.
BA was from a blood test so there isn't an immediate reading.

Age of onset is most commonly college years (for people who go to college) -- you'd expect that particularly in athletes coming from big programs as they experience a considerable amount of stress with competing and coursework. If not, you'd almost certainly trigger that in training camp etc. If a guy had a serious mental illness it is most likely there would be signs already.
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Well, if he is, it wouldn't be unlike a lot of fans on this board....including myself.
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Or maybe he's just a mood swingy brat like 90% of pro athletes
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Oh, heck, being moody isn't a psychopathy as such; If it were we'd half to institutionalize roughly half the population. hahaha

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