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Old 01-25-2013   #61
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If Jerry wants a moment to change his perception in fans minds or even in nfl circles i think he needs to start winning, making the playoffs, and win a Super Bowl
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Old 01-25-2013   #62
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What a joke, its a misdemeanor charge. Let the league handle the punishment.
The Dallas "Football" Cowboys a team where everyone is accountable*.

*Unless their name is Jerry or Jason.
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Old 01-25-2013   #63
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If Jerry wants a moment to change his perception in fans minds or even in nfl circles i think he needs to get rid of Ratliff. What kind of message does it send to his team if he says enough is enough. If he doesnt then that speech meant nothing but sugar coating.

Ratliff is a disgrace, and it just shows the guy is selfish and plain stupid.

Steelers wasted no time in kicking one of their players to the curb for getting arrested. I like that zero tolerance type setting.

If Jerry wanted one moment to take control of the situation and change the whole perception that Dallas is soft this is how you do it. Take the cap hit, show this team that bull will not be tolerated. Cause at the end of the day a team that knows they're being held accountable for their actions will now think twice knowing they would be cut.

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If Jerry wants a moment that will take charge of the team then he can make that moment happen any time he is ready.

Fire the GM and stop the insanity of this management paradigm that allows players to circumvent the head coach and go directly to the owner.

The team you are speaking about has never been held accountable as long as Jerry has been the GM.

But this isn't just Jerry. While some disagree, Garrett could have sat Dez down for a game for his behavior with his mother. People rushed to the defense of Dez, so pretty much the fanbase makes noise like they want a tough coach to hold feet to the fire, but they don't really.

Garrett did nothing to his star receiver, and Jerry hasn't done anything since cutting Quincy loose for smoking pot.

Taught by the culture of this team is an inbred dynamic that allows the prima dona attitude and non-accountability we see.

It will not change until Jones decides winning is more important than his football guy reputation.
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But this isn't just Jerry. While some disagree, Garrett could have sat Dez down for a game for his behavior with his mother. People rushed to the defense of Dez, so pretty much the fanbase makes noise like they want a tough coach to hold feet to the fire, but they don't really.

Garrett did nothing to his star receiver, and Jerry hasn't done anything since cutting Quincy loose for smoking pot.
Are you sure Garrett has the power to sit Dez for a game?

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Are you sure Garrett has the power to sit Dez for a game?
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Point taken.
I know Jerry has talked about being involved in personnel meetings during the week. I don't think it's a stretch to think the head coach has to clear it with the owner before he does something like sit Dez Bryant. I'd be shocked if he could do that on his own.

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I know Jerry has talked about being involved in personnel meetings during the week. I don't think it's a stretch to think the head coach has to clear it with the owner before he does something like sit Dez Bryant. I'd be shocked if he could do that on his own.
And what does that say about a franchise that the head coach doesn't have autonomy to make discipline decisions?
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And what does that say about a franchise that the head coach doesn't have autonomy to make discipline decisions?

It says everything you need to know about the state of this Franchise and why they have underachieved for 16 straight seasons in a row.


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And what does that say about a franchise that the head coach doesn't have autonomy to make discipline decisions?
It says that nobody knows the truth about what goes on around Valley Ranch.

There is just as much or more tangible evidence that Garrett has power as there is evidence that he doesn't.

Garrett has gone on and on about Right-Kind-of-Guys. The 2 drafts since Garrett became Head Coach are tangible evidence that the Cowboys have put much more emphasis on RKGs. Almost too much if you look at picks like McSurdy.

I'm not saying that Garrett does or does not have autonomy in discipline decisions; however, I am saying that there is no tangible proof either way. It's all speculation regardless of who it comes from.

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It says that nobody knows the truth about what goes on around Valley Ranch.

There is just as much or more tangible evidence that Garrett has power as there is evidence that he doesn't.

Garrett has gone on and on about Right-Kind-of-Guys. The 2 drafts since Garrett became Head Coach are tangible evidence that the Cowboys have put much more emphasis on RKGs. Almost too much if you look at picks like McSurdy.

I'm not saying that Garrett does or does not have autonomy in discipline decisions; however, I am saying that there is no tangible proof either way. It's all speculation regardless of who it comes from.

...really! REALLY!!! okay okay ok ..wait wait okay....he just got his play calling duties stripped from him...no tangible proof! no tang-ible proof!! ........................!!


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...really! REALLY!!! okay okay ok ..wait wait okay....he just got his play calling duties stripped from him...no tangible proof! no tang-ible proof!! ........................!!
I'm sorry, but just what does having his play-calling duties stripped away have to do with autonomy on disciplinary decisions?

By the way, in the salary-cap era, no head coach, unless he is also the general manager, has complete autonomy on disciplinary decisions.
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This is absolutely ridiculous, first off let me say I think Ratliff should be gone, no ifs ands or buts. Second I can not believe how many people wanted us to coddle Josh Brent but now are calling for the head of Ratliff. Brent should be in jail and Ratliff should be fired and have to meet with a jury and should probably also have some jail time. Neither deserves to play in the NFL.
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Sure they did have you ever heard of the rookie that was involved in a police chased that ended in several cars being damaged and him being arrested. Still on team?
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Old 01-27-2013   #74
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...really! REALLY!!! okay okay ok ..wait wait okay....he just got his play calling duties stripped from him...no tangible proof! no tang-ible proof!! ........................!!
And how do u know that Garrett didn't go in to Jerry's office and ask for this to be done???......oh wait u dont know

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fans dont want rat gone bc he is still overrated by MANY here.
Ratliff overrated you say?

I beg to differ... he has averaged 1.8 sacks per season over the past three seasons.

The Cowboys would be absolutely insane not to do everything humanly possible to retain him for 2013 -- at a bargain basement price of $2.5m per sack.

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