Jay Glazer says Jerry is "stripping power" from Garrett

[nake]

If Jerry hires Gruden, hopefully he will make Jason Garrett the GM.

[jday]

Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING

I post this because A.) I agree and B.) I believe Glazer to be the best "insider" in the business. He's tight with so many NFL players and I can't remember the last story this guy missed on.

He was on the "Petros and Money" radio show in Fox Sports Radio tonight. They asked him about the moves and he said Jerry is stripping power from Garrett with the coaching moves he's made and that Cowboys players in Hawaii at the Pro Bowl are wondering what's going on. Also said people he's talked to in the NFL are confused by the Kiffin hire.

[View Full Quote]Before Glazer is branded as a "hater", he actually said in this interview that he thought the team was headed in the right direction under Garrett. He said all the players he's talked to said he gained a lot of respect with how he guided the team through the Josh Brent debacle. I believe his exact quote was that he "they had something good going on there" before Jerry intervened. He said he'd rather have Garrett calling plays than Bill Callahan.

Just passing the info along.

It honestly depends on how you decide to look at it. I rarely trust the media perspective, because drama sales. On the flipside, I rarely trust what the team/dallascowboys.com says, because they will typically spin it in manner that would suggest there is "nothing to see here."

I am not a fan of Jerry Jones the GM. In my view, he has failed miserably as a GM. You need only look at the 1 playoff win in the last 16 years to see why I feel this way. Having said that, I do not think the moves he has made up to this point should suggest that he is looking to replace Garrett. Nor do I feel he is "stripping power" away from Garrett; you can't strip away that which was never there to begin with; Jerry Jones has said from the beginning that he will make all final decisions which means he has had all the power from the beginning and until he dies, I really don't see that changing.

Now, if you want to say he is stripping responsibilities away, you would be accurate. But I'm not sure that should be viewed as necessarily a bad thing. As a Head Coach / Offensive Coordinator, I think Jason Garrett was too close to his offense to see the big picture in some games. For instance, there were a few instances were I feel he gave up on the run too soon in games, not thinking about the burden he was placing on his defense by not controlling the ball and the clock. Personally, in the long run, I think this will be viewed as a good thing. However, the statement does come with a condition: Jerry Jones must stay the course even beyond next year. Given the changes that are being made on defense and the already surplus of holes on this team, I honestly think it may be unreasonable to expect this team to make the playoffs next year.

[CATCH17]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

I thought Jason Garrett was changing the culture himself to allow this team to succeed... Now, he needs other people to do it for him?

He wasn't qualified to do this kind of job to begin with.

The guy has absolutely no presence during a game unless he is doing something negative.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

1. How many Cowboy players are in the Pro Bowl? People seem to miss this reality. I don't see Tony Romo playing at the Pro Bowl. Dez Bryant isn't there. Murray, nope... Is Witten even there?
2. Gaining respect over how one handles a Josh Brent situation and how one coaches a team are two totally different things... And if it took this long to gain respect, what does that mean was happening before?

Not sure I understand the point. Your knocking the coach because there aren't many probowl players on the roster?

And the coach had the players respect from the day he took over and reversed the tailspin under Wade. There really are worse things than back-to-back 8-8 seasons playing for the division crown in week 17. When Glazer comes out and says JG's got something going in Dallas, he's probably tuning into something that more fans should pay some attention to. Jerry's unnecessary interference notwithstanding.

[punchnjudy]

Well, if Garrett fails here and is let go, Jerry's credibility as a hc evaluator will be shot. He'll be forced to hire a "big name" hc and make whatever allowances go along with that. Fans wouldn't buy anything else. IOW, a JG firing could very well result in JJ stripping his own power as well (assuming a "big name" would demand more autonomy). That's why I think Jerry is still holding out tremendous hope that Garrett will be successful here, and in his mind he's not doing anything to discredit Jason.

[hutch1254]

Originally Posted by punchnjudy

Well, if Garrett fails here and is let go, Jerry's credibility as a hc evaluator will be shot. He'll be forced to hire a "big name" hc and make whatever allowances go along with that. Fans wouldn't buy anything else. IOW, a JG firing could very well result in JJ stripping his own power as well (assuming a "big name" would demand more autonomy). That's why I think Jerry is still holding out tremendous hope that Garrett will be successful here, and in his mind he's not doing anything to discredit Jason.

In regards to Jerry's own power as GM, you made a good point, he'd have to relinquish something otherwise the fans definitely won't buy in. Good post.

[Gemini Dolly]

Man, this is like asking would you rather die burning alive, or drowning. They both suck.

Jason having less power only means Jerry gains more. But, the less power Jason has, the better. Jason needs to just focus on being coach. Thats it.

[Woods]

Originally Posted by hutch1254

Nice response post. Thanks. I can't disagree with it, not that I'm looking to. JJ wants Red to succeed of course...he hand picked him, paid him extra to stay as an OC. JJ wants this to succeed because if Red does, JJ does. While I don't really have too many issues with who JJ has chosen at the coaching positions in recent weeks I need to see the choices he makes with the roster in the coming months. If he truly wants Red to succeed he'll ensure that "impact players" are in the trenches. Not at WR and CB as done previously. This will give the new coaches a chance to succeed as well and snowball from there.

Actually, you make a great point.

We have seen some very tough decisions made regarding the coaching staff. Brutally tough decisions, including JG's own brother.

In the realm of the cap and what is possible, are we going to see some really tough decisions made regarding the roster in the coming few months?

[dadymat]

Originally Posted by DOUBLE WING

The guy you just described... JERRY SAID HE WOULD FIRE HIM.

And I love how you end the post asking us to ignore the last 17 years of mediocrity as if it didn't happen. That's rich.

I love how you dont seem to want to answer the question I asked and insist on throwing out the same OLD response....im fully aware of the last 17 seasons.....they usually end in disappointment, has no barring on the question I asked , or the point i was trying to make..

Once again for the slow people, Im responding the notion that Jerry is not a football guy, I didnt say hes done a great job over the last 17 years...im not saying he is best GM in the league....im merely saying in fact he is a football guy and asked for the list of GMs with better resumes....

[Zordon]

Originally Posted by dadymat

I love how you dont seem to want to answer the question I asked and insist on throwing out the same OLD response....im fully aware of the last 17 seasons.....they usually end in disappointment, has no barring on the question I asked , or the point i was trying to make..

Once again for the slow people, Im responding the notion that Jerry is not a football guy, I didnt say hes done a great job over the last 17 years...im not saying he is best GM in the league....im merely saying in fact he is a football guy and asked for the list of GMs with better resumes....

name another team that would hire him. it should be easy to name one considering his resume is far superior to most GMs.

[dadymat]

Originally Posted by Plankton

Jones was never an all SWC offensive lineman. He only started for one year at Arkansas due to injuries.

There's no need to embellish his resume when it's irrelevant to the discussion.

if he was he was...if he wasnt he wasnt...im not a Jerry historian, but according to his Wiki page he was...(and yes I know Wiki is not 100% reliable)

[dadymat]

Originally Posted by Zordon

name another team that would hire him. it should be easy to name one considering his resume is far superior to most GMs.

yawn....

[RS12]

Originally Posted by Zordon

name another team that would hire him. it should be easy to name one considering his resume is far superior to most GMs.

There are posters here that would defend Jerry running over puppies on purpose. Consider the source and dont waste your breath. If your eyes tell you grass is green it probably is.

[dadymat]

Originally Posted by RS12

There are posters here that would defend Jerry running over puppies on purpose. Consider the source and dont waste your breath. If your eyes tell you grass is green it probably is.

maybe the Jerry lynch mob can break out of their tunnel vision and learn to read,,,,,,ABCs....easy as 123.....

Im not defending Jerry....simply pointing out his resume, and asking for those who say he isnt a football man to tell me their qualifications of a football man and to show me the better resume....

never said he shouldnt be fired.....

never said any other team would hire him......

never said the last 17 years were peachy .....

and never said he was a good GM........

all of your talking points are made very clear here on a daily , thread to thread basis.....they have nothing to do with the subject at hand....

[hutch1254]

Originally Posted by Woods

Actually, you make a great point.

We have seen some very tough decisions made regarding the coaching staff. Brutally tough decisions, including JG's own brother.

In the realm of the cap and what is possible, are we going to see some really tough decisions made regarding the roster in the coming few months?

Thanks.

That's just it. Will we see some "uncomfortable" decisions made with the roster? Now the thing is this...I'm sure there will be uncomfortable decisions made but will they be made in the right spots. I don't trust JJ's player personnel decision making. As mentioned in another thread I read today, often you find the more successful franchises have a GM or player personnel director who fought up through the scout ranks and the like. Jerry doesn't have those experiences to lean on. And whoever gets JJ to believe that Olinemen and Dlinemen are the new "shiny new toys" of this league that person will be deemed a miracle worker.

I understand JJ's passion to win but is that passion so great that it is blinding him from handing the keys over to a more experience driver who can drive the player personnel car? Stubborn oil man syndrome?