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Old 01-26-2013   #121
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fair enough but how do you absolve all three of blame all the time? eventually someone has to be held accountable.
By whom and how?

Complaining about Jerry the GM on a message board is just complaining to be heard. It isn't going to make him quit being the GM, making whatever decisions he feels need to be made for his football team, etc.

I absolutely wish Jerry would hire a GM, but realize that constantly obsessing over it, whining about who has the power or berating every move because it's a Jerry move accomplishes absolutely nothing.

Instead, I'd rather focus on the things that can and are changing and not worry about who's changing them. If I couldn't get past the who, if that was my obsession knowing it's not going to change, frankly I wouldn't want to follow a team where I had to do that.
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
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Old 01-26-2013   #122
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By whom and how?

Complaining about Jerry the GM on a message board is just complaining to be heard. It isn't going to make him quit being the GM, making whatever decisions he feels need to be made for his football team, etc.

I absolutely wish Jerry would hire a GM, but realize that constantly obsessing over it, whining about who has the power or berating every move because it's a Jerry move accomplishes absolutely nothing.

Instead, I'd rather focus on the things that can and are changing and not worry about who's changing them. If I couldn't get past the who, if that was my obsession knowing it's not going to change, frankly I wouldn't want to follow a team where I had to do that.

Wrong, it is heard and is does make a difference, message baords are a big part of the reason Jerry Jones heard the Booos LOUD AND CLEAR out at the Deth Star.


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Old 01-26-2013   #123
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Wrong, it is heard and is does make a difference, message baords are a big part of the reason Jerry Jones heard the Booos LOUD AND CLEAR out at the Deth Star.
Who cares if he's booed? Certainly not Jerry, who has been hearing them since the day he fired Landry and still makes it absolutely clear he's not going to quit being GM of this team.

Again, complaining about Jerry is just complaining. It serves no other purpose than that.
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
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Who cares if he's booed? Certainly not Jerry, who has been hearing them since the day he fired Landry and still makes it absolutely clear he's not going to quit being GM of this team.

Again, complaining about Jerry is just complaining. It serves no other purpose than that.
Jerry has to listen.


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Jerry has to listen.
nah, if anyone thinks we make a difference commenting on this forum with the team is fooling themselves. That is why I don't get why some people take opinions so serious as if it matters.
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nah, if anyone thinks we make a difference commenting on this forum with the team is fooling themselves. That is why I don't get why some people take opinions so serious as if it matters.


It makes a difference.


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Jones was a star running back at North Little Rock HS ,

He was a co-captain of the 1964 National Championship football team.

He was an all-SW Conf O lineman

24 years experience in NFL as GM

3 SB wins

13 seasons with Playoff appearance

8 NFCE champs


now give me the list of GMs with better resumes....and see if you can respond without saying "17 years and counting" or "Jimmy did it"
What have you done for me lately? McNabb was a super star, winning winning winning, until he couldn't win anymore.

We all know Jerry was a paycheck writer back when Jimmy compiled all those wonderful credentials. Once Jimmy boy left, what has Jones done exactly?

If you can't see how horrible he is at his job, then consider this.

How many coaches has Jerry gone through? Every 3 years or so, he fires and hires a new coach. Why? Because they did not produce results. But has Jerry the GM produced results? The answer is NO. So why should he keep his title if he doesn't produce results yet he fires everyone else? Well, because he owns the place, and when you own something, you do what you want to with it, including destroy it like he's done.

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Wrong, it is heard and is does make a difference, message baords are a big part of the reason Jerry Jones heard the Booos LOUD AND CLEAR out at the Deth Star.
Lol, now this is funny.
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Jay Glazer makes a difference. Troy Aikman. Darren Woodson. Stephen A. Smith. On and On.

Couldn't sneak himself bye on a Cancer Fund Commercial in his own Stadium without getting booed, that's bad.

Think people hate him now, that is only going to get worse, he asked for it.


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Jerry has to listen.
Why? Is the stadium half-empty? Are the Cowboys no longer the No. 1 draw on TV in the NFL? Are the merchandise sales lagging?

If you want Jerry to listen, you have to speak his language.

I do believe Jones cares about winning in his own way, but I don't think the fans or commentators hold any sway on how he approaches it, unless they hit him in the wallet.
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
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I actually think you'd hear very little about Jerry except there seems to be a contingent of people on this board that, oddly, defend him.

It seems to be a CZ thing. Most other boards I visit all seem to generally acknowledge and agree Jerry is an issue and move on to discuss other things.
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Who cares if he's booed? Certainly not Jerry, who has been hearing them since the day he fired Landry and still makes it absolutely clear he's not going to quit being GM of this team.

Again, complaining about Jerry is just complaining. It serves no other purpose than that.
Then skip those posts. Honestly when the biggest issue on this team is Jerry Jones you can't help but talk about him and the complete circus he has created. Every problem, every concern starts and ends with Jerry Jones. It is ridiculous how incompetent he is at his job and how egomaniacal he is by refusing to step down.

Back to a point you made earlier it does matter who makes the decisions on the staff. It's Garrett's staff, he should have all the say. If Jerry wants to have input fire the head coach. He does everything wrong. He should have never hired Garrett in the first place and now he is deciding who should or shouldn't be on his staff.
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Wrong, it is heard and is does make a difference, message baords are a big part of the reason Jerry Jones heard the Booos LOUD AND CLEAR out at the Deth Star.
The heat/pressure is going to be extremely high during the 2013 season. I'm not saying whether its fair/unfair, classy/not classy...If this team somehow gets off to a 1-3 or 2-4 start... Jerry Jones, Garrett and Romo are going to be taking heat like never before. Doesnt matter how any of the 3 perform their individual jobs, a bad start will have that trifecta of GM, head coach and QB get blasted like they've never been ripped before.
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Jerry appears to care when booed in public. If you have an ego, want accolades as a great GM the last thing to have is your fans booing you on national TV, must vex him something fierce. As a business guy he probably also wants a better return on his player investment than 8-8, how could he not a ? Sure, he is making money, but he is also spending a lot on salaries and would expect a better result for all that cash.

Excellence is an art won by training and habituation. We are what we repeatedly do. - Aristotle
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All the Jerry hate is rather funny. He will never turn the reigns over to anyone else until his health dictates he has to. To be a Cowboys fan everyone has to learn to accept Jerry whether they like him or not because he isn't going to stop until he has to. The only thing that Jerry understands as far as messages go is money. If fans would stop going to the stadium, buying merchandise, etc.... that might get his attention but it will never cause him to step down and hire a 'football guy". When Jerry's health fails and Stephen takes over it will be interesting to see if Stephen hires a "football guy" or if he follows in his fathers footsteps and does it all himself.
"Maybe next year!!" We have been saying this phrase WAYYYYY too long!!!!!!!!!!
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