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Old 01-26-2013   #1
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Default My Mock as of today...

I was given friendly advice to post a new thread on my mock vs throwing it on someone else's thread. So here we go.

FA signings:
OG Andy Levitre
DT Henry Melton

Rd 1- DE Dion Jordan
Rd 2- DT Sylvester Williams
Rd 3- S Phillip Thomas
Rd 4- OL Braxton Cave
Rd 5- OT Brian Winters
Rd 6- DE Devin Taylor


With the signing of our 2 FA's and our draft we address our trenches by adding Levitre and Cave for the interior line and Winters can compete for the RT spot.

On defense adding Melton and Williams helps our DT spots while Jordan and Taylor gives us some young DE's. Jordan is explosive and Taylor complimented Clowney on the opposite end at SC.

Adding these 7 trench players will be an upgrade to the ones we currently have. Thomas will give us what we have been lacking for years; a safety who has range. He will be a good fit with Church and Johnson.
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Old 01-27-2013   #2
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One question: Where are we getting the $$ to sign Melton and Levitre?

The Cowboys have zero cap room.. We're already over the $121 million cap by about $20 million. Extending Tony Romo's contract and possibly reworking Brandon Carr's contract are the only ways to get us back under the cap.

IF we can release or rework Miles Austin, Jay Ratliff and Doug Free's contracts, (which we desperately need) then MAYBE we'll have enough money to sign one key FA, but I still wouldn't count on it.

On top of that, Williams most likely won't fall to us in the 2nd round and I would be shocked if Thomas lasted until our pick in the 3rd. I bet he goes mid 2nd.
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FA signings: We don't have enough $$$, but nice
OG Andy Levitre good
DT Henry Melton great

Rd 1- DE Dion Jordan Good pick(or Anash), but we should use our first pick on a 1tech DT (like Floyd), or Cooper/Warmack, after singing Melton. IMO
Rd 2- DT Sylvester Williams Good pick
Rd 3- S Phillip Thomas Good pick
Rd 4- OL Braxton Cave Awful. He is terrible. Undrafted, after his senior bowl performance, But Brian Schwenke (C, UCLA) would be awesome.
Rd 5- OT Brian Winters Good pick
Rd 6- DE Devin Taylor We dont need him. RB
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Rd 1- DE Dion Jordan Good pick(or Anash), but we should use our first pick on a 1tech DT (like Floyd), or Cooper/Warmack, after singing Melton. IMO
I think pigeon-holing a draft slot as a certain position is a mistake. If a DT is at the top of our board when our pick is up, then absolutely. But if it's Ansah or Cooper or Fisher, you go that way.

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Rd 2- DT Sylvester Williams Good pick
GREAT pick, if he's still there (which I really doubt).
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Yeah I 'd love to add those two in free agency and have a draft like that. Good effort.

I just don't see how we can afford both Melton and Levitre if any.
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FA signings: We don't have enough $$$, but nice
OG Andy Levitre good
DT Henry Melton great

Rd 1- DE Dion Jordan Good pick(or Anash), but we should use our first pick on a 1tech DT (like Floyd), or Cooper/Warmack, after singing Melton. IMO
Rd 2- DT Sylvester Williams Good pick
Rd 3- S Phillip Thomas Good pick
Rd 4- OL Braxton Cave Awful. He is terrible. Undrafted, after his senior bowl performance, But Brian Schwenke (C, UCLA) would be awesome.
Rd 5- OT Brian Winters Good pick
Rd 6- DE Devin Taylor We dont need him. RB

I think Melton would be great but unrealistic he almost signed a deal with the bears during the season so I think he is untouchable. So add the best 3 technique to your rd one list. Sheldon Richardson comes to mind, Kawaan Short maybe in rd 2.

Can you talk about what you saw from Braxton Cave during the Senior Bowl, I missed the game and in the practices I thought he was holding his own(not a pun).

Wish we could find a way to get Lane Johnson, it would be wonderful to have Johnson and Smith on our edges.
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One question: Where are we getting the $$ to sign Melton and Levitre?

The Cowboys have zero cap room.. We're already over the $121 million cap by about $20 million. Extending Tony Romo's contract and possibly reworking Brandon Carr's contract are the only ways to get us back under the cap.

IF we can release or rework Miles Austin, Jay Ratliff and Doug Free's contracts, (which we desperately need) then MAYBE we'll have enough money to sign one key FA, but I still wouldn't count on it.

On top of that, Williams most likely won't fall to us in the 2nd round and I would be shocked if Thomas lasted until our pick in the 3rd. I bet he goes mid 2nd.
There's such a thing as not re-signing free agents, losing around ~12 million in dead money that won't be on our books, and like you mentioned re-working contracts.

When all is said and done, I bet we'll be ~15-18 million under the cap. I'm tired of people constantly claiming cap is an issue. Adam has claimed that it won't be an issue for us.
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Yeah I 'd love to add those two in free agency and have a draft like that. Good effort.

I just don't see how we can afford both Melton and Levitre if any.
I agree it would hard to land both, but not impossible.

The Cowboys are actually in a very good position to clear a lot of cap space via reworking contracts and letting a few players go.
I think they could take on same sort of contracts that we added during last year's FA period.

A bonus may be that we even get some of that cap space added back that was taken away via penalty last season. I wouldn't count on it, but there sure is a lot of behid-the-scenes chatter about it.
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I was given friendly advice to post a new thread on my mock vs throwing it on someone else's thread. So here we go.

FA signings:
OG Andy Levitre
DT Henry Melton

Rd 1- DE Dion Jordan
Rd 2- DT Sylvester Williams
Rd 3- S Phillip Thomas
Rd 4- OL Braxton Cave
Rd 5- OT Brian Winters
Rd 6- DE Devin Taylor


With the signing of our 2 FA's and our draft we address our trenches by adding Levitre and Cave for the interior line and Winters can compete for the RT spot.

On defense adding Melton and Williams helps our DT spots while Jordan and Taylor gives us some young DE's. Jordan is explosive and Taylor complimented Clowney on the opposite end at SC.

Adding these 7 trench players will be an upgrade to the ones we currently have. Thomas will give us what we have been lacking for years; a safety who has range. He will be a good fit with Church and Johnson.
Good effort.

Don't worry about getting beat up about Free Agent signings. You will get this response if you predict signing any of the top rated guys.

Have you watched Andy Levitre? I would like to hear a "scouting" report on him.

Good draft. I would like to find a way to draft a RB in there somewhere.

It would be difficult to pass on Dion Jordon; however, he only projects to the Weak-Side DE position in Kiffin's defense, which is Ware's position. They do need some talent behind Ware, but it might be somewhat of a luxury pick considering the other players that are expected to be available at #18.

Jordon might be able to play some 4-3 LB, but you wouldn't be getting the best value from him there.

The Cowboys really need to add talent at the Center position; however, I see Cave as very similar to guys they already have on the roster (Costa, Kowalski, Bernadeau).

Just an FYI, Brian Winters is probably an OG only now with his short arm length; however, it shouldn't really affect your draft.

Devin Taylor has the ideal build to play the Strong-Side DE in Kiffin's defense.

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Good effort.

Don't worry about getting beat up about Free Agent signings. You will get this response if you predict signing any of the top rated guys.

Have you watched Andy Levitre? I would like to hear a "scouting" report on him.

Good draft. I would like to find a way to draft a RB in there somewhere.

It would be difficult to pass on Dion Jordon; however, he only projects to the Weak-Side DE position in Kiffin's defense, which is Ware's position. They do need some talent behind Ware, but it might be somewhat of a luxury pick considering the other players that are expected to be available at #18.

Jordon might be able to play some 4-3 LB, but you wouldn't be getting the best value from him there.

The Cowboys really need to add talent at the Center position; however, I see Cave as very similar to guys they already have on the roster (Costa, Kowalski, Bernadeau).

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We may not even have enough money to sign our OWN top rated guys, so yeah he's gonna get beat up over it cuz it's unrealistic.
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We may not even have enough money to sign our OWN top rated guys, so yeah he's gonna get beat up over it cuz it's unrealistic.
We only have ~105 million in contracts tied up for next year. Look it up.
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We only have ~105 million in contracts tied up for next year. Look it up.
We're 18 million over the cap for next year. YOU look it up.
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We may not even have enough money to sign our OWN top rated guys, so yeah he's gonna get beat up over it cuz it's unrealistic.
I would take Melton over Spencer if given the choice. His position (3-tech) is critical to Kiffin's defense.

I don't want to bog this thread down with all the details of the salary cap; however, there is a good probability that the Cowboys can create a significant amount of room under the cap in 2013 if they want to go that route. The key number to keep in mind is 29.77M. This is the amount of dead-money that the Cowboys had under the 2012 cap. They only have 2M of dead-money currently against the 2013 cap.

The salary cap hit for the 1st year of Brandon Carr's contract was 3.6M. That would be 7.2M if the Cowboys gave both Melton and Levitre the same contract as Carr.

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okay this is excellent but we need a rb BAAAAD

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I was given friendly advice to post a new thread on my mock vs throwing it on someone else's thread. So here we go.

FA signings:
OG Andy Levitre
DT Henry Melton

Rd 1- DE Dion Jordan
Rd 2- DT Sylvester Williams
Rd 3- S Phillip Thomas
Rd 4- OL Braxton Cave
Rd 5- OT Brian Winters
Rd 6- DE Devin Taylor


With the signing of our 2 FA's and our draft we address our trenches by adding Levitre and Cave for the interior line and Winters can compete for the RT spot.

On defense adding Melton and Williams helps our DT spots while Jordan and Taylor gives us some young DE's. Jordan is explosive and Taylor complimented Clowney on the opposite end at SC.

Adding these 7 trench players will be an upgrade to the ones we currently have. Thomas will give us what we have been lacking for years; a safety who has range. He will be a good fit with Church and Johnson.
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We're 18 million over the cap for next year. YOU look it up.
Unrestricted Free Agents & 2012 Cap Hit ($20,978,000)

Victor Butler...$615,000
Michael Coe...$700,000
Kenyon Coleman...$2,000,000
Derrick Dockery...$825,000
Mike Jenkins...$1,052,000
Felix Jones...$1,170,000
L.P. LaDouceur...$790,000
Brian Moorman...$925,000
Kevin Ogletree...$640,000
Charlie Peprah...$700,000
John Phillips...$565,000
Brady Poppinga...$825,000
Brian Scahefering...$615,000
Ernie Sims...$700,000
Anthony Spencer...$8,856,000


Restricted Free Agents & 2012 Cap Hit ($1,145,000)

Phil Costa...$540,000
Danny McCray...$540,000
Sterling Moore...$465,000


Exclusive Rights Free Agents & 2012 Cap Hit

Orie Lemon...$390,000


Dead Money Coming Off ($12,739,233)

Levy Adcock...$3000
Marion Barber...$4,000,000
David Buehler...$37,125
Mario Butler...$146,250
Shaun Chapas...$14,213
Tashard Choice...$109,750
Danny Coale...$47,513 (was re-signed to the PS, then put on IR)
Leonard Davis...$2,666,667
Saalim Hakim...$10,000
Kyle Kosier...$700,000
Ron Leary...$3000 (was resigned to the PS, then called up to the active 53)
Stephen McGee...$133,000
Bill Nagy...$11,475
Terence Newman...$4,800,000
Brodney Pool...$100,000


2013 Roster (Free Agent Year *) & Cap Hit

* "R" Means Restricted Free Agent In That Year
"ER" Means Exclusive Rights Free Agent In That Year

QB...Tony Romo (14)...$11,500,000
QB...Kyle Orton (15)...$1,350,000
QB...Nick Stephens ???

RB...DeMarco Murray (15)...$620,313
RB...Phillip Tanner (14R)...$555,000
RB...Lance Dunbar (15R)...$480,000

FB...Lawrence Vickers (14)...$1,200,000

WR...Miles Austin (17)...$6,732,000
WR...Dez Bryant (15)...$1,557,500
WR...Dwayne Harris (15)...$555,000
WR...Danny Coale (15)...$ ???
WR...Cole Beasley (15R)...$480,000
WR...Donovan Kemp (15R)...$480,000

TE...Jason Witten (17)...$5,500,000
TE...James Hanna (16)...$480,000
TE...Andre Smith ???

OT...Tyron Smith (15)...$1,511,009
OT...Doug Free (15)...$7,000,000
OT...Jermey Parnell (15)...$1,023,088
OT...Darrion Weems (15R)...$480,000

OG...Nate Livings (17)...$1,700,000
OG. Mackenzy Bernadeau (16)...$1,750,000
OG...David Arkin (15)...$555,000
OG...Ron Leary (15R)...$480,000

C...Ryan Cook (14)...$1,100,000
C...Kevin Kowalski (14R)...$555,000

DE...Jason Hatcher (14)...$1,500,000
DE...Spears...(16)...$2,000,000
DE...Sean Lissemore (17)...$630,000
DE...Tyrone Crawford (16)...$480,000
DE...Ben Bass (15)...$480,000
DE...Ikponwmosa Iginosun ???
DE...Monte Taylor ???

DT...Jay Ratliff (17)...$5,000,000
DT...Josh Brent (14)...$575,000 (status in limbo due to legal ramifications)
DT...Robert Calloway (14ER)...$480,000
DT...Brian Price ???

LB...DeMarcus Ware (16)...$5,500,000
LB...Sean Lee (14)...$480,000
LB...Bruce Carter (15)...$766,327
LB...Alex Albright (14R)...$555,000
LB...Dan Connor (14)...$3,000,000
LB...Kyle Wilber (16)...$480,000
LB...Caleb McSurdy (16)...$480,000
LB...Brashton Satele ???

S...Gerald Sensabaugh (17)...$3,000,000
S...Barry Church (17)...$823,000
S...Matt Johnson (16)...$480,000
S...Eric Frampton (14)...$950,000

CB...Brandon Carr (18)...$14,300,000
CB...Morris Claiborne (16)...$1,129, 296
CB...Orlando Scandrick (17)...$3,000,000
CB...Vince Agnew ???
CB...Micah Pellerin ???
CB...Brandon Undewood ???

K...Dan Bailey (14R)...$555,000

P...Chris Jones (14R)...$555,000
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