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Old 01-28-2013   #1
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Default JJT: Let's Stick to Football on Jay Ratliff

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/...y-ratliff-fate

I rarely agree with JJT but his opinion is in line with my thinking, right or wrong, you can't cut Ratliff.
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Old 01-28-2013   #2
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Strictly sticking to football, Ratliff should be cut based on his recent production vs. salary and probable future return on investment. In plain English, in the unlikely event that he is not injured (<50% probability), he will likely (>50% probability) play like garbage. So, no one should pay him $7M to likely sit the bench.

Time to move on. Chances are that the Cowboys can pick up a free agent or draft pick who will be better than Ratliff.
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Strictly sticking to football, Ratliff should be cut based on his recent production vs. salary and probable future return on investment. In plain English, in the unlikely event that he is not injured (<50% probability), he will likely (>50% probability) play like garbage. So, no one should pay him $7M to likely sit the bench.

Time to move on. Chances are that the Cowboys can pick up a free agent or draft pick who will be better than Ratliff.
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http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/...y-ratliff-fate

I rarely agree with JJT but his opinion is in line with my thinking, right or wrong, you can't cut Ratliff.
No, no, no.

He didn't say you cannot cut Ratliff.

He just said you can't do it because of the DWI, but freely admitted that he could be gone because he's not worth his paycheck.
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Ratliff was not a good fit for what you need in a 3-4. Lets see what he can do in a 4-3.

His bigger mistake is probably not having flattering things to say about the owner.
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No, no, no.

He didn't say you cannot cut Ratliff.

He just said you can't do it because of the DWI, but freely admitted that he could be gone because he's not worth his paycheck.
Yeah, people can't comprehend that it isn't about his latest transgression but a buildup of negative issues.

This is simply the last straw.

Or it should be anyway.


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He'll get a chance to compete in camp. You don't save anything cutting him from what I remember. If he can't play for whatever reason and you have an adequate replacement then you can let him go.
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My response has nothing to do with him drinking and driving. However, I think it points to how bad the state of the franchise really is....when we have what I keep hearing is "guys we cannot live without" I will keep saying it again and again...the core of this roster has NEVER won anything. They have ONE playoff win. So how are ANY of them untouchable at this point?
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he's not worth his paycheck.
The paycheck that is fully guaranteed for next season?
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My response has nothing to do with him drinking and driving. However, I think it points to how bad the state of the franchise really is....when we have what I keep hearing is "guys we cannot live without" I will keep saying it again and again...the core of this roster has NEVER won anything. They have ONE playoff win. So how are ANY of them untouchable at this point?
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My response has nothing to do with him drinking and driving. However, I think it points to how bad the state of the franchise really is....when we have what I keep hearing is "guys we cannot live without" I will keep saying it again and again...the core of this roster has NEVER won anything. They have ONE playoff win. So how are ANY of them untouchable at this point?
Exactly. I think Jerry does things right and also has major faults. This is one of his faults. He thinks guys, coaches, etc are untouchable. Like things will fall apart without someone. The team hasn't had too many like that in a long time so you have to see who is getting it done for their price and go from that.
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My response has nothing to do with him drinking and driving. However, I think it points to how bad the state of the franchise really is....when we have what I keep hearing is "guys we cannot live without" I will keep saying it again and again...the core of this roster has NEVER won anything. They have ONE playoff win. So how are ANY of them untouchable at this point?
IMO, Dan Bailey should be the only "untouchable" right now. I agree with this post, sir.
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No, no, no.

He didn't say you cannot cut Ratliff.

He just said you can't do it because of the DWI, but freely admitted that he could be gone because he's not worth his paycheck.
I'm pretty sure teams are allowed to cut players for any reason. There is language in the CBA about fining, suspending and benching players that is not allowed.
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Six million cap hit to cut I think
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