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01-28-2013
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#16
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Lonely Stranger
Years Donated 2007, 2009, 2012
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
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Originally Posted by jobberone
Man, we need to start winning.
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Uh, yeah...that will change things around here.
The fans of this team lately cannot wait till Jerry takes a dirt nap and Romo gets traded for a 7th round pick. However, there will be 50 more reasons to complaint about "the team they love/like".
I think iceburg calls them the IGS, and I agree with him. Some people are A types and some are B types. It's the B types that holler the loudest.
Now, I don't like everything about this team for the past years, but, I'm not going to close my eyes and hold my breath, or post the same drivel day after day after day.
Winning it all is not going to "pacify" some of the posters around here. It's the cool "thang" to sport the Jerry avatar, and say the same thing win or lose.

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01-28-2013
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#17
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
Posts: | 14,779 |
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Originally Posted by iceberg
doesn't matter. they'll just find something else to hate.
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You're right. It takes a real ingrate to be disgruntled after 17 years of losing.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-28-2013
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#18
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detoxed
Years Donated 2004, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | the colony |
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Originally Posted by Risen Star
You're right. It takes a real ingrate to be disgruntled after 17 years of losing.
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look at the past. even when winning we had to have some whipping boy to trade or hate on a regular basis. so this has NOTHING to do with the tried and true worn out to death "17 years" battlecry.
it's just a statement of fact. some people just need someone to hate or "want gone".
iceberg
i can’t make a mind see what a heart looks past in hope
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01-28-2013
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#19
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
Posts: | 14,779 |
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Originally Posted by iceberg
look at the past. even when winning we had to have some whipping boy to trade or hate on a regular basis. so this has NOTHING to do with the tried and true worn out to death "17 years" battlecry.
it's just a statement of fact. some people just need someone to hate or "want gone".
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I don't remember all this "hate" when we won.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-28-2013
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#20
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detoxed
Years Donated 2004, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | the colony |
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Originally Posted by Risen Star
I don't remember all this "hate" when we won.
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it has gotten A LOT louder to be sure. glee clubs and their anti-jones mantra is quite amazing. but there's always been a player of hate on the team the generalized fans want gone.
iceberg
i can’t make a mind see what a heart looks past in hope
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01-28-2013
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#21
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jan 2006 |
Posts: | 14,779 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iceberg
it has gotten A LOT louder to be sure. glee clubs and their anti-jones mantra is quite amazing. but there's always been a player of hate on the team the generalized fans want gone.
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I don't know if there's ever been a team with a roster full of players fans didn't want to see tweaked from year to year.
But "hate" of the team? No. Fans hate losing. Win and it goes away.
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We'll settle this with a good dust up.
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01-28-2013
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#22
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2008 |
Location: | valley ranch |
Posts: | 3,925 |
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The cowboys are worth 2.1 billion,I dont think Jerry gives a hoot about what we think.
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01-28-2013
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#23
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Posts: | 141 |
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Garrett's best hope to pull all this off, as moribund as it sounds, is that the cred among players remains from his brilliant handling of the death of Jerry Brown. He carried the team on his shoulders through difficult days, and those left on the roster next year won't forget that. Leaders shine under such circumstances, and Garrett shined the brightest.
Why is Garrett getting accolades on the handling on Jerry Brown?. Any decent Head Coach/Human Being would have handled the situation. Garrett is a Football Coach and he needs to be held accountable for his Team's performance. Please leave his compassion with personal matters out of the Head Coach equation. Garrett has not shown that he can handle the responsibilities of being a "successful" head coach. Just because of his Princeton background, he is the Savior. For a man who played and briefly was an assistance Coach in the NFL, he does not have a clue how to prepare his Offensice Game Plan properly. We need to win and one of our weaknesses is Garrett. If Garrett was fired today, he would never sniff another Head Coach NFL job for at least 5 to 10 years. He would not even get a OC job. He would only get a QB Coach job at best. Look around the NFL and Dallas has one of the worse Head Coaches in the League right now. The Truth hurts and the Dallas Fans will have a long Off-Season and 2013 with "Princeton Smart-Football Stupid" playing Captain Kirk on NFL Gamedays.
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01-28-2013
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#24
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
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Jerry's not retiriung as GM until he lives thruogh one more Super Bowl winning year and at least the two years following it so he has a chance to destroy it.
This will happen before his death; its all part of the fiddler's deal (as the Devil plays on).
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01-28-2013
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#25
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Originally Posted by erod
Jerry is in an all-out sprint. The ghost of Al Davis is chasing him with a chainsaw.
I giggle at the hopeful debate among Cowboys fans about who is calling the coaching shuffle shots these days, as if history never happened and football sense resides in Jerry's pickled melon.
Hello, McFly....
No, I'm not saying Jason Garrett wasn't in the room when these coaching decisions were bandied about. Sure, I can buy that he wanted Ryan gone, too, particularly if the work ethic rumors were true and given the "unsoundness" of his scheme, according to many a trusted guru I pay credence.
[View Full Quote]But I'm pretty dadgum sure he didn't want to can his brother, nor do I know why Boniol earned his ire or why DeCamillis wanted out so badly last year and now. And you know Garrett especially doesn't want to toss his playsheet with Jon Gruden's staff circling him at Valley Ranch, many of which have manned a sideline in his very spot. The kitchen's got a bunch of head chefs these days.
What and how and why all this is happening, really, is irrelevant. Perception always trumps reality, whether or not they are one in the same, which in this case, almost certainly is.
Garrett's best hope to pull all this off, as moribund as it sounds, is that the cred among players remains from his brilliant handling of the death of Jerry Brown. He carried the team on his shoulders through difficult days, and those left on the roster next year won't forget that. Leaders shine under such circumstances, and Garrett shined the brightest.
Jerry couldn't have done that. No way. Here's hoping the players keep that in mind after Jerry's "uncomfortable" guillotine spree.
Playing to Garrett's favor is also the sad public tailspin of Jerry, who yet again thinks furiously muddying up the water will mask and evade 16 year's of crystal clear documented truth. Desperation oozes from the man, who looks more and more ready to find a trap door somewhere. He just looks uncomfortable.
Yes - and I may be out here on an island with Tom Hanks and Wilson - I think Jerry is looking for a way out of the GM fray. There, I said it. Burn me in effigy if you must. I could be wrong, but my gut says Jerry's tiring of the charade.
Pride, of course, won't let it be on our terms. It won't come with admittance or public intervention. Short of a Super Bowl appearance, there won't be a finite moment or trumpet fanfare to stamp the occassion.
What Jerry needs is a playoff game, preferably two, and he needs it pronto. Another plunge into quarterback hell will only elongate the wait and punctuate his scorned legacy. That last Super Bowl with Deion is fading into pre-High Definition obscurity. A whole Ray Lewis career ago. RGIII was five years old.
Jerry knows this has to happen under Romo's watch. It would bode nicely if Garrett was here, too, but as the odometer piles miles on Romo, that's not a must. Gruden is a call away, and it might fix Romo asap if needed. Jerry's seemingly playing a handful of cards all at once.
Winning once emboldened Jerry to do scary bad things. Now, I think it might just provide the opportunity for him to surreptitiously step into the football background, smug mug intact.
So cheer Garrett and your Cowboys like your life depends on it. More is riding on it than a singular season of wins and losses.
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Just wanted to say that I agree with what you wrote and hope that it's true. I would love Jerry to exit stage left on his terms and get a gm or whatever to help this ship get right.
But mainly what I wanted to comment on is your writing skills. You area really good writer, I don't know what you do professionally but you have some clear writing skills. I'm impressed.
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01-28-2013
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#26
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jul 2011 |
Posts: | 2,412 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iceberg
it has gotten A LOT louder to be sure. glee clubs and their anti-jones mantra is quite amazing. but there's always been a player of hate on the team the generalized fans want gone.
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I know of what you speak, but that certainly isn't me. I've been on this Jerry kick for years, and the only others that I've had it out for were Wade (from the get-go) and Terrell Owens (what a bucket of puke).
Then there's Roy OU, Roy UT, Marty B, and the like, which every team has and we all want improved upon.
I'm a HUGE proponent of culture. I've been a part of both good and bad, even managed both good and bad, and if there's anything I've learned in this life is that you can't move forward in the wrong culture.
Jerry emits the wrong culture. HE is the problem. Vince Lombardi couldn't operate in Jerry's circus. That's why I support Garrett, because he's uniquely tempered to handle it about as well as I think it can be handled.
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01-28-2013
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#27
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Senior Member
Joined: | Aug 2010 |
Posts: | 1,239 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reddyuta
The cowboys are worth 2.1 billion,I dont think Jerry gives a hoot about what we think.
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He better because we are the ones who buy his merchandise, food, drinks and buy those tickets.
We're also the ones who watch the games and make the ratings what they are. Without us the fans kiss football good-bye!
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01-28-2013
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#28
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Senior Member
Joined: | Apr 2004 |
Location: | Right here |
Posts: | 5,632 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
I don't know if there's ever been a team with a roster full of players fans didn't want to see tweaked from year to year.
But "hate" of the team? No. Fans hate losing. Win and it goes away.
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For some I think it will..... others I'm not too sure about that!
Let's Go Fishin'
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01-28-2013
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#29
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Senior Member
Joined: | Feb 2005 |
Location: | NC |
Posts: | 2,780 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Risen Star
I don't know if there's ever been a team with a roster full of players fans didn't want to see tweaked from year to year.
But "hate" of the team? No. Fans hate losing. Win and it goes away.
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Winning on a regular basis will frustrate most of the fan pessimism though some will always find something to whine about.
After such a long drought, many of us are beyond tired of all the cliches and status quo, we want substantive change on the field.
However, we are aware Jerry is not stepping down, hence the angst and frustration with the organization and with the tendency of Jerry to select coaches who are puppets in between desperation coaching hires.
I suppose we are hoping Jerry will somehow get out of the way or become so desperate that he once again allows a true football coach the power and space to make it happen on the field, we are looking at 17 years! 
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01-28-2013
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#30
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Senior Member
Joined: | Jun 2004 |
Location: | New York, NY |
Posts: | 7,974 |
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jobberone
Man, we need to start winning.
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Not gonna happen with Jerry Jones in charge.
Don't be surprised if the entire team gives up on Garrett ala Wade Wilson.
Same old bs.
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