Ansah Over O-Line - Dallas Cowboys Forum

IAmLegend · 01-30-2013

After his monster showing at the Senior Bowl, I think Ezekiel Ansah is going to rise up draft boards and end up being drafted somewhere in the 12-18 range. Remember, Jason Pierre-Paul, who scouts are comparing Ansah to, went 15th overall. If Ansah does slip to us #18 though, I think we take him. I'm convinced Jerry won't be drafting O-Line in the 1st this year no matter what. Jerry also loves pass rushers and he knows this kid has the potential to be a monster.

So, assuming Jerry neglects O-Line with our 1st pick yet again, if Ansah is there at 18, would you rather take him or best DT available? Or maybe best S available? Personally, I think it comes down to Ansah and Sheldon Richardson.

Here's Ansah's 2012 highlight reel:

RastaRocket · 01-30-2013

I wont be mad with a pass rusher in the first round. I think that's the route we are going to take. As long as we upgrade any of the trenches I will be pleased. I think we still draft O-Line somewhat early. Maybe rounds 2 or 3.

burmafrd · 01-30-2013

as has been discussed before in threads about Ansah, he is a boom or bust guy. Gonna be one or the other

DBOY3141 · 01-30-2013

I think regardless if Ziggy is still on the boards at #18 or not, Cowboys will go DL. I don't see JJ drafting a guard in the 1st round. I think our 1st and 2nd round picks will be on defense.

Does anyone know if the Cowboys talked to Ziggy at the SR bowl? Or Short.

JDSTAR · 01-30-2013

I think a pass rusher in the 1st would be ideal. In fact, a safety in the second, then choose two Olineman within the last 4 picks. Remember, Jerry has openly praised the Offense and criticized the D. I don't think that he thinks there is any problem with the Oline.

GloryDaysRBack · 01-30-2013

Sharrif Floyd!!!!!

Get on board

CATCH17 · 01-30-2013

Ansah is going to be that guy that it will probably take the full 3 years to eventually get quality play from.

He'll be labled a bust pretty quickly by fans, and even though he may bust, he may also just need a lot of time to produce at this level.

DBOY3141 · 01-30-2013

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Originally Posted by JDSTAR

I think a pass rusher in the 1st would be ideal. In fact, a safety in the second, then choose two Olineman within the last 4 picks. Remember, Jerry has openly praised the Offense and criticized the D. I don't think that he thinks there is any problem with the Oline.

And there's the problem. We can't keep spending 4th and later picks on OL, gotta start using 1st and 2nd's.

I know we need some DL help, but not as much as OL.

jnday · 01-30-2013

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Originally Posted by JDSTAR

I think a pass rusher in the 1st would be ideal. In fact, a safety in the second, then choose two Olineman within the last 4 picks. Remember, Jerry has openly praised the Offense and criticized the D. I don't think that he thinks there is any problem with the Oline.

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't address the oline at all. Jerry does not value the oline. I don't think he ever will. The only way to get his attention is for the fanbase to quit spending money. Even then, he will go with the flashy moves to get hopes up.

CATCH17 · 01-30-2013

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Originally Posted by DBOY3141

And there's the problem. We can't keep spending 4th and later picks on OL, gotta start using 1st and 2nd's.

I know we need some DL help, but not as much as OL.

We'll always be able to find better value than a guard in the 1st or 2nd round but at some point we just need to pull the trigger and say screw value and just take some quality linemen.

supercowboy8 · 01-30-2013

Anash is very over rated right now. IMO, to each their own. Of course he looks great in a highlight film but he disappears a lot in games and makes splashes and is very raw. I think some of these senior bowl risers will fall back down after the underclassman preform at the combine.

DBOY3141 · 01-30-2013

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Originally Posted by CATCH17

We'll always be able to find better value than a guard in the 1st or 2nd round but at some point we just need to pull the trigger and say screw value and just take some quality linemen.

We haven't so far. Lots of folks talk about SF line, they have 3 1st rounders with one being a guard.

Free
Arkin
Brewster
Marten
Nagy

and so on. None have worked.

We need to bite the bullet and draft Cooper in the 1st and Barrett Jones in the 2nd.

Smith/Cooper/Jones/Livings/Parnell - would be the start of a very good O-Line for years to come. Great defenses no longer exist in the NFL. You have to have an offense that can put up 24-28 points every week, and that starts up front.

Our DL will be good enough as is to compete next year. Use our 3rd pick on defense and pick up a servicable FA DL.

CATCH17 · 01-30-2013

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Originally Posted by DBOY3141

We haven't so far. Lots of folks talk about SF line, they have 3 1st rounders with one being a guard.

Free
Arkin
Brewster
Marten
Nagy

and so on. None have worked.

We need to bite the bullet and draft Cooper in the 1st and Barrett Jones in the 2nd.

Smith/Cooper/Jones/Livings/Parnell - would be the start of a very good O-Line for years to come. Great defenses no longer exist in the NFL. You have to have an offense that can put up 24-28 points every week, and that starts up front.

Our DL will be good enough as is to compete next year. Use our 3rd pick on defense and pick up a servicable FA DL.

You're right and I should've worded that better.

I meant that we'll always find a position that seems like it has more value than a guard or Center in the first couple of rounds.

I like the Offensive Tackle from Oklahoma.

I was watching OU earlier in the year and I was like WHO is this guy.. He stands out bigtime and supposedly the guy went there as a QB and got converted to Offensive Tackle.

He has serious upside imo.

DBOY3141 · 01-30-2013

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Originally Posted by CATCH17

You're right and I should've worded that better.

I meant that we'll always find a position that seems like it has more value than a guard or Center in the first couple of rounds.

I like the Offensive Tackle from Oklahoma.

I was watching OU earlier in the year and I was like WHO is this guy.. He stands out bigtime and supposedly the guy went there as a QB and got converted to Offensive Tackle.

He has serious upside imo.

Lane Johnson.

I've seen different mocks on him from going top 15 to top of the 2nd. He would make a really good tackle.

xwalker · 01-30-2013

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Originally Posted by CATCH17

I like the Offensive Tackle from Oklahoma.

I was watching OU earlier in the year and I was like WHO is this guy.. He stands out bigtime and supposedly the guy went there as a QB and got converted to Offensive Tackle.

He has serious upside imo.

Lane Johnson was a High School QB.
2008: JUCO where he played QB and TE.
2009: Redshirt
2010: Played TE and DE.
2011: Started 12 of 13 games at RT.
2012: Started 11 of 13 games at LT.

His upside might be better than Joeckel's. If Joeckel is forced to play without holding, then Johnson might be straight up better right now.