Ed Werder: Jerry not replacing Garrett with Gruden

[jjktkk]

Originally Posted by 1fisher

Peter King said it so it must be true!

Lol, true. And I really like and respect King, but this is totally an opinion, no proof. Jerry likes the show, circus, whatever you want to call it, but none of his head coaches were what I would call exactly glitzy.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

Broaddus, Mickey and Eatman think if Garrett fails its Lovie Smith and not Gruden who would be the guy

As long as Lovie gets a good OC, I'm sold. That was his downfall in Chicago... Mike Martz post-Rams success, is Jason Garrett part 1.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

That's fine and all, but who would the OC be? Because the key to all this is Tony Romo. And the great thing about Gruden is that he's an offensive-minded coach and did so well with Rich Gannon and Brad Johnson.

Like tyke said, Romo's time is running out. Really, I think it's going to be almost too late for Romo before Jerry makes a change.

And then we'll get to start this process over hoping we can find a QB because we wasted the career of the one we just had.

This right here, i.e. it's all about Romo. We can maximize Romo though, provided our OC is legit. I have not heard of anything about Lovie that he messes with QBs or tries to interfere in the offense.

[zrinkill]

Originally Posted by theebs

It's so sad that this once great organization has its coaches needing to be show biz enough to meet the owners families attention requirements.

This .....

[Doomsday101]

Never thought he would. While there may be a large group that wants Garrett gone I have felt Jerry would give Garrett the time. Time may be running out for Garrett but he will get this year to save his job.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by rickjameschinaclub

This right here, i.e. it's all about Romo. We can maximize Romo though, provided our OC is legit. I have not heard of anything about Lovie that he messes with QBs or tries to interfere in the offense.

I haven't either, and of course I'd much rather have Lovie than Garrett even with the same staff we have. But to really get us going, he'd have to have a top OC to go with him.

Now say Garrett had been fired this year and we'd gotten Lovie and Norv? Oh yeah. That would be perfect. But who knows who would be available next year. And Lovie never found a top OC in all his time in Chicago -- and their offense showed it.

[rickjameschinaclub]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

I haven't either, and of course I'd much rather have Lovie than Garrett even with the same staff we have. But to really get us going, he'd have to have a top OC to go with him.

Now say Garrett had been fired this year and we'd gotten Lovie and Norv? Oh yeah. That would be perfect. But who knows who would be available next year. And Lovie never found a top OC in all his time in Chicago -- and their offense showed it.

Yes, this is my issue. When I think Lovie Smith, the OC is what I can't get my head around.

The thing is, I'm not sure if he needs a top OC, as long as Romo is here, only because I believe so much in Romo being potentially a HoF QB. The turnovers Lovie generates with his defenses, provided the trend continues, will give the offense plenty of scores with a half-way decent OC.

Jason is just so bad, he is not even in the half-way decent category...

[JackWagon]

Originally Posted by Titleist

Let's tank the season, blame it on adapting to the 4-3, and then get Clowney in the draft while also getting Gruden/Lovie as a new coach!

Better than any plan jerry has had in 17 years.

[HoustonFrog]

Originally Posted by Chocolate Lab

I haven't either, and of course I'd much rather have Lovie than Garrett even with the same staff we have. But to really get us going, he'd have to have a top OC to go with him.

Now say Garrett had been fired this year and we'd gotten Lovie and Norv? Oh yeah. That would be perfect. But who knows who would be available next year. And Lovie never found a top OC in all his time in Chicago -- and their offense showed it.

Right, but I'd rather have Lovie recruiting an OC here...with the ones that were available this year vs. Garrett. Garrett doesn't want anyone who can take his job. Lovie isn't built like that. The Bears just always went for guys who never fit the talent. A lot of that was on their GM too.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Originally Posted by theebs

It's so sad that this once great organization has its coaches needing to be show biz enough to meet the owners families attention requirements.

Peter King said that as part of his speculation which the club shot down. Perception is not reality as much as people seem to act like it is.

[nake]

Let's hire Lovie or Gruden and make RHG the General Manager. Or, we could leave Garrett the head coach, and make Lovie or Gruden the General Manager. Either way works for me.

[Hook'em#11]

I swear,

The more I hear or read about retread coaches coming to Dallas.


The more I am liking Garrett.

[1fisher]

Originally Posted by Hook'em#11

I swear,

The more I hear or read about retread coaches coming to Dallas.


The more I am liking Garrett.

....but Gruden screams, spits, and has a mean scowl... that automatically will make him successful!

[JackWagon]

i think the last 17 years has proven that frankly coaching doesnt really matter. Drafting talented players is way more important. Just look at the results. Even a sure fire hall of fame coach couldnt make it here with Jerry as the GM.