David Arkin, anyone? - Dallas Cowboys Forum

Verdict · 02-02-2013

We have saved a roster spot for him ...... so what sort of production, if any, do we get out of him in 2013?

Omegasupreme · 02-02-2013

I was wondering the same thing about Arkin. The descriptions of Arkin in college were of his "strength", "power" and finishing his blocks (sometimes with knockdowns). But then I was reading about him needing more time in the weight room, being undersized, overpowered, etc. The two descriptions of him don't match. In the games I saw with him, he seemed to get banged around

It sounds like maybe his blocking style in college was very aggressive and willfully nasty but maybe his mentality was writing checks that were physically revoked in the NFL. If they can build his overall power and keep the nasty streak, I would imagine he would have some value as a swing player (I think he can play all positions on the line).

I wonder what the progress is with his weight and strength.

Bluestang · 02-02-2013

Arkin's only shot to make the team is going to be at center. He is the fastest lineman on the roster but he doesn't have any "anchor" in his game at all.

I'd be very surprised if he becomes a starter and I was someone that liked Arkin's chances heading into this year.

This is his final year to prove his worth.

Ultimategamer5567 · 02-02-2013

We need to treat this offseason as if Arkin and Costa are not on the roster in 2013. Placing hope in either of them will cost the team greatly.

Risen Star · 02-02-2013

I haven't read anyone who covers this team that has anything positive to say about where Arkin is right now. Broaddus practically writes him off as a wasted pick.

Risen Star · 02-02-2013

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Originally Posted by Ultimategamer5567

We need to treat this offseason as if Arkin and Costa are not on the roster in 2013. Placing hope in either of them will cost the team greatly.

Or better yet, release them from the roster.

Flush and jiggle the handle. Don't forget the air freshener.

Blue Eyed Devil · 02-02-2013

I expect the same amount of production we got out of 2011 and 2012 - nothing. He's a great example of a guy that gets a roster spot because he was a draft pick. But I can't imagine him keeping a roster spot in 2013. We'll have newer, better, draft picks this year to take his roster spot.

AMERICAS_FAN · 02-02-2013

Can he be switched to defense in any capacity? Depending on his measurables, If he likes to hit and has quickness he can shoot gaps to the ball carrier - perhaps as a rotation guy in some defensive packages?

**Reality** · 02-02-2013

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Originally Posted by Risen Star

I haven't read anyone who covers this team that has anything positive to say about where Arkin is right now. Broaddus practically writes him off as a wasted pick.

I was about to post the same thing. That's not to say he doesn't have potential and maybe another off-season will help, but at this point, he's done nothing and I have read nothing that would suggest he would likely make the team next season.

/reality

Risen Star · 02-02-2013

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I was about to post the same thing. That's not to say he doesn't have potential and maybe another off-season will help, but at this point, he's done nothing and I have read nothing that would suggest he would likely make the team next season.

/reality

You just get a completely different vibe when his name is mentioned to the guys covering the team as opposed to someone like Leary. They at least consider Leary a possibility but Arkin is seen almost as a camp invite only.

I don't know. I won't lie and say I hated the pick. I didn't. I thought he was a pretty decent small school prospect worthy of going in the 4th round. I guess the guy just isn't strong enough to play in the NFL.

Ultimategamer5567 · 02-02-2013

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Originally Posted by Risen Star

Or better yet, release them from the roster.

Flush and jiggle the handle. Don't forget the air freshener.

My hope is that they draft Barrett Jones. When was the last time Dallas had a good center again? Yeah.

AbeBeta · 02-02-2013

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Originally Posted by Omegasupreme

I was wondering the same thing about Arkin. The descriptions of Arkin in college were of his "strength", "power" and finishing his blocks (sometimes with knockdowns). But then I was reading about him needing more time in the weight room, being undersized, overpowered, etc. The two descriptions of him don't match. In the games I saw with him, he seemed to get banged around

It sounds like maybe his blocking style in college was very aggressive and willfully nasty but maybe his mentality was writing checks that were physically revoked in the NFL. If they can build his overall power and keep the nasty streak, I would imagine he would have some value as a swing player (I think he can play all positions on the line).

I wonder what the progress is with his weight and strength.

Small school. No real competition. That explains pretty much the whole deal

Risen Star · 02-02-2013

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Originally Posted by Ultimategamer5567

My hope is that they draft Barrett Jones. When was the last time Dallas had a good center again? Yeah.

Well, Gurode was a good center for a number of years.

Then you'd go back to Ray Donaldson, maybe. Stepnoski was a shell of his former self when he came back to Dallas.

Risen Star · 02-02-2013

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Small school. No real competition. That explains pretty much the whole deal

Too broad a brush, IMO. Larry Allen came from a small school.

AbeBeta · 02-02-2013

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Too broad a brush, IMO. Larry Allen came from a small school.

I was explaining how a guy who was evaluated as playing with strength and power could be so physically weak by nfl standards. Allen is irrelevant to this discussion