If we end up trading back in Round 1, opinions on drafting

[Woods]

DJ Fluker to play OG? And he could provide insurance at RT in case of injury.

Fluker is a massive, though not a fat, player. While he may not have the feet to be a high quality RT, he may have the body size, personality, and sufficient agility to be a better OG in the NFL.

Again, I am not advocating drafting him at 18. But maybe with a trade down to the mid/late-20s, for example, if the staff is looking to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder.

[Woods]

Also, if we do end up trading back a few spots in Round 1 this year, here are a few other guys who may be available and may be interesting to us:

D Jones, DE
X Rhodes, CB - but he is 6-1 and 217 lbs and physical. Can he play Safety?
A Ogletree, LB
K Vaccaro, S
K Short, DT
J Hankins, DT

[tm1119]

Not sure how I feel about drafting a guy in the 1st round for a position hes never played before. He could probably make the transition given his size and strength, but its still definitely a risk.

I'm personally still believe that Cooper would still be there around 25ish so he would be my 1st target. After that I would look at names like(in no order) Sam Montgomery, Alex Okafor, Kawann Short, Alec Ogletree, Matt Elam, and Barrett Jones. Obviously it depends on how far we trade back and who is still on the board.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by Woods

DJ Fluker to play OG? And he could provide insurance at RT in case of injury.

Fluker is a massive, though not a fat, player. While he may not have the feet to be a high quality RT, he may have the body size, personality, and sufficient agility to be a better OG in the NFL.

Again, I am not advocating drafting him at 18. But maybe with a trade down to the mid/late-20s, for example, if the staff is looking to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder.

no thanks. Fluker is way to slow and heavy footed to play OG in zone blocking scheme.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

no thanks. Fluker is way to slow and heavy footed to play OG in zone blocking scheme.

When players like Warford and Fluker don't have a place in a system, it is time to change the system.

[supercowboy8]

Originally Posted by jnday

When players like Warford and Fluker don't have a place in a system, it is time to change the system.

no its time to draft the players that do fit the system. Cooper fits the system and is better than both of these players. Dallas Thomas, Brian Winters, also fir this system.

you go and change the system then those guys don't fit it. Stick with what you have just draft the players that can play it.

[Rack Bauer]

Originally Posted by Woods

DJ Fluker to play OG? And he could provide insurance at RT in case of injury.

Fluker is a massive, though not a fat, player. While he may not have the feet to be a high quality RT, he may have the body size, personality, and sufficient agility to be a better OG in the NFL.

Again, I am not advocating drafting him at 18. But maybe with a trade down to the mid/late-20s, for example, if the staff is looking to pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder.

If we trade back in round 1, there will be better guards available then Fluker.

Hell, fluker might just be there at our 2nd round pick anyway.

[Rack Bauer]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

no its time to draft the players that do fit the system. Cooper fits the system and is better than both of these players. Dallas Thomas, Brian Winters, also fir this system.

you go and change the system then those guys don't fit it. Stick with what you have just draft the players that can play it.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by supercowboy8

no its time to draft the players that do fit the system. Cooper fits the system and is better than both of these players. Dallas Thomas, Brian Winters, also fir this system.

you go and change the system then those guys don't fit it. Stick with what you have just draft the players that can play it.

They have one lineman that can play either system. That is Tyron. The two free agents are not zone blocking lineman. It would be easier to use a system that fits the players. When you force a player to play in a system that doesn't fit the talent, you are asking for trouble. Even the backups such as Leary don't fit a zone blocking system. It is smarter to change the system back to man blocking than to replace all but one lineman. They can use some zone concepts with players such as Flucker. It has been done with sucess. The 90's Cowboys come to mind. A more recent example would be the 49ers who used some zone blocking on a couple of plays about 10 min ago.

[Macnalty]

Woods if we trade back I hope we can pick up Barrett Jones that would hush a lot of talk about the Oline(he could be elite at the guards position and center). I like Fluker just not at 18 or the first rd.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by Macnalty

Woods if we trade back I hope we can pick up Barrett Jones that would hush a lot of talk about the Oline(he could be elite at the guards position and center). I like Fluker just not at 18 or the first rd.

I don't think Flucker or Jones is first round talent. Jones's stock seems to be dropping. He might be there as low as the top of the third if his slide continues. I think Flucker might be gone by the mid-second. So much can change at the combine to change things.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by jnday

When players like Warford and Fluker don't have a place in a system, it is time to change the system.

I'll fix it for him:

Fluker is way too slow and heavy footed.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by xwalker

I'll fix it for him:

Fluker is way too slow and heavy footed.

He would be a great guard. Maybe a decent backup right tackle. It is hard to say for sure. Cordy Glenn was stamped with the label of being better at guard and he is a starting LT. Osmele is playing guard for the Ravens, but he did a good job of filling in at RT this year for the Ravens. He was too slow footed for tackle as well, but he was better at right tackle than Free. These big guys get the slow label too fast in some cases. I think the combine will give a hint if Fluker can make the transition to NFL tackle.

[lostar2009]

Larry Warford ..

Trade back between spot 28-31 and draft Larry Warford..

[Woods]

Originally Posted by Macnalty

Woods if we trade back I hope we can pick up Barrett Jones that would hush a lot of talk about the Oline(he could be elite at the guards position and center). I like Fluker just not at 18 or the first rd.

If we could get 1 quality OL in FA and pick up a player like B Jones, I think our OL will be good enough to help our team take the next step into the playoffs. I'm not saying the OL will be elite, but they could be "good".

Unless someone we really want drops to us at 18, I hope we have the opportunity to trade down and pick up an extra 2nd or 3rd rounder.