RG3 wins Rookie of the year

[NIBGoldenchild]

Originally Posted by AsthmaField

In the first game there were busted coverages and CB's actually laying on the ground when the WR caught the ball. Griffin did what any NFL QB should do and found the wide open guy.

Way to not give credit to an awesome performance....

It wasn't getting Griffin that got things going in DC. It was Shanahan being in his 3rd season and finally getting the OL blocking like he wanted and getting a RB that teams had to worry about. Getting Garcon didn't hurt either.

So false it's actually funny. The OL is STILL bad. They only had excellent running blocking and decent pass blocking in Pistol formations, where the defense was indecisive due to the read option. In the plays where they went spread or Griffin was under center, Morris' YPC was well below 4.0 and Griffin almost never had a clean pocket. The RT Tyler Polumbus is not a NFL starter, he actually shouldn't even playing in the league. Even in the Pistol he was consistently giving up pressure and often not even getting a hand on the pass rusher. The only thing that OL did better than the previous two seasons was stay healthy. Although I agree he finally attained a tailback that had the patience and vision he requires for Mike Shanahan's running game, he only had Garcon for half the season....and a couple of those games he wasn't much more than a decoy due to his health.

It is very difficult to stop the run game when you face a Shanahan (mike) offense and it opens things wide open for the QB. Shanahan turns out 1000 yard rushers like a pez dispenser Plus, he so controls what the QB can and can't do that it is little surprise that Griffin had so few turnovers.

Wow, if Shanahan is that great I wonder why McNabb, Grossman, and Beck didn't work out.

As teams figured out what Washington was doing as the season went on, things started to change a lot for Griffin. His lack of accuracy was a lot more noticeable as teams took away the easy throws.

Example, please. The only games I noticed him inaccurate in were after his injury against the Ravens. And bad accuracy isn't something you just happen to notice as teams see more film on your offense. An inaccurate pass is an inaccurate pass, period. If he was an inaccurate passer, which he isn't, this would've been noticed back in September or October.

He shouldn't have even beat out Morris... much less Wilson and Luck.

Anyone who gives more credit to Morris in this offense has very little clue how the offense works, and obviously only watched the games Dallas played against them. Morris' low ypc outside of Pistol formations is a testament on how much he benefited from Griffin's presence. He's a back with great vision and patience, but only average agility and no breakaway speed. Great kid with a good head on his shoulders, so he'll stick around...but Shanahan's system has made careers for more average tailbacks then the other way around.

Griffin simply outplayed his competition, no other way around it. Although if Wilson would've won it I would not complain, Luck didn't deserve it though.

[MartinRamone]

Media won, Luck got robbed.

[SkinsandTerps]

The Garcon reference might be the funniest of all.

Geez.

[DejectedFan1996]

Originally Posted by Risen Star

Someone said they'd love him on the Cowboys. We have Romo. I'll let you figure out the rest.

So by someone saying "I'd love Griffin on the Cowboys" that warrants a Romo discussion in a thread about ROY? I'd take Griffin too just because he's 22 and Romo is 33.

[Kilyin]

Where's that Skins fan that posts here with the NFC East Champs banner? He can put this one right beside it and file it away in the "Who Cares" drawer.

[alecweezy]

Originally Posted by Shneek814

Haha you're funny. His ability to make things happen opens up opportunities for players like Morris. He wont always have the greatest game. Smart, great arm, fast. D Coordinator nightmare. I'll take that all day on my team. Don't be homers.

Agree, his game opens up oppurtunities for Morris and it works the other way.

But I'm sure as hell D Coordinators would rather have Morris run over them than letting RG3 do his thing

[Lodeus]

Wilson.

[Supercowboy1986]

What a joke these awards have become. Luck and Wilson were both robbed

[Sarge]

Originally Posted by BrAinPaiNt

Luck got robbed. Heck RGIII was not even the best rookie non his own team.

True story...

[sacase]

Funny thing is Cousins comes in and puts up awesome stats in his only start as a rookie. Here's a hint...its not RGIII that makes that team go. Morris was the one constant throughout the season. Like I said before. Cousins will be the Starting QB in Washington in 4 years.

[Mansta54]

Originally Posted by Kilyin

Where's that Skins fan that posts here with the NFC East Champs banner? He can put this one right beside it and file it away in the "Who Cares" drawer.

They better be concerned about those 2 major knee surgeries on the same knee in a 4yr span, that's unheard of and its serious. REAL SERIOUS!!! They gave up a lot for damaged goods. Wow!!!

[December90]

Originally Posted by sacase

Funny thing is Cousins comes in and puts up awesome stats in his only start as a rookie. Here's a hint...its not RGIII that makes that team go. Morris was the one constant throughout the season. Like I said before. Cousins will be the Starting QB in Washington in 4 years.

Funny thing is that RG III when asked who should be Rookie of the Year said that it should belong to Morris.

For those of you who say that Luck or Wilson got robbed. Well this was a year that two top notch rookie QB's would get robbed as all three were worthy of ROY and only one could win the award.

For those who think that RG III isn't special, look at his TD/INT ratio and compare it to your altime great cowboy QB's. 20 TD's isnt "great" but only 5 ints is pretty darn good. Throw in 800 yards rushing (which I predict will be his career high even if he plays 20 season - which I don't expect)

When RG III plays a more traditional game, he has shown that he can throw. The real test comes next season if they work to protect their investment and limit his runs to less than 1/2 of the attempts he had this season. He simply needs to prove it more ans rely on his whells a little less (His favorite comparison are to Steve Young and Aaron Rodgers - Not Vick or Newton)

As for the guy who says he laid a stinker in week 17 with "100 yards and 50%" yes those were his passing stats which included some drops by his all-pro wide receivers (thats right NONE of the Redskins WR were anywhere close to the conversation for Pro-Bowl for very good reason) and it included running for 60 yards and a TD on a gimpy leg. Now imagine for a minute of RG III had a WR to throw to like a Dez Bryant or Larry Fitzgerald or even a Vincent Jackson. I challenge any real Cowboys fan to tell me that they would be comfortable playing the Skins if they had a real receiving corp for RG III to throw to

Be happy, the Skins Cowboys Rivalry is back. Both teams appear to be poised to contend for a while.

Lest we forget

F Mara...

[SkinsHokieFan]

This thread has made my Monday

My only response is this




Oh I know y u are so mad

[zrinkill]

Originally Posted by SkinsHokieFan

Oh I know y u are so mad

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by BraveHeartFan

And likewise Morris took a ton of pressure and focus off of RG3 because they couldn't forget that Morris could run the hell out of the ball.

Both Wilson and Morris had outstanding running games. The Skins ranked first in the league in yardage and the Seahawks third (about an 8 yard per game difference). However, that difference is really more about RGIII going for over 800 yards (Wilson ran for close to 500).

The Seahawks actually were a little better in terms of running backs -- they had Lynch go 315-1590 and Turbin 80-354. Morris went 335-1613. No other Skins back went over 100 yards for the year.

It is hard to buy any argument that a good running game makes a QB less worthy