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Old 02-04-2013   #76
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Wilson got robbed
tied Manning's td record
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10 wins

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RGIII threw for 6 fewer TDs. He also ran for three more.

RGIII had a TD-Int differential of 15. Wilson had a differential of 16.

RGIII 258-3200, PR 102.4. Wilson 252-3118, PR 100.

Really the only statistics that shows much difference is RGIII's 800+ rushing yards to Wilson's almost 500 and turnovers. RGIII turned the ball over a total of 7 times. Wilson turned it over 13 times.

You need a better argument for Wilson.
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I agree, prime example why STATS should not be a measuring stick of success. Luck deserved to win the award in my opinion.
If the award was for doing the most with the least around him, then Luck would be the winner. He had zero running game.

Really, all three are deserving. Me, I think RGIII is a guy who is really fun to watch. He's exciting and has a heck of an arm. I have no problem with him winning the award.
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RG3 had a very good rookie season and played well with a solid running game something which certainly helped his cause.

What we will continue to see develop from defenses this offseason are complex attacks designed to shut down the pistol formation and read option approaches.

RG3 will not last long in the NFL in this style of play, as defensive players will unload on him outside of the pocket as evidenced this year.

The gimp knee is certainly no chimera and will become a significant factor that will certainly mitigate his style of play next season.

If RG3 continues to play his game as such, he will be much like the often injured Michael Vick that simply continued to be exposed to problematic punishment and injury.

I realize Redskins fans are ecstatic for actually drafting a QB with promise and for getting out of the NFC East basement this season.

However, if the said QB continues this style of play, their insurance policy of Cousins will be needed at the QB position because defenses will evolve to counter the novel approach and will simply punish the runner of the option outside the pocket.
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RG3 had a very good rookie season and played well with a solid running game something which certainly helped his cause.

What we will continue to see develop from defenses this offseason are complex attacks designed to shut down the pistol formation and read option approaches.

RG3 will not last long in the NFL in this style of play, as defensive players will unload on him outside of the pocket as evidenced this year.

The gimp knee is certainly no chimera and will become a significant factor that will certainly mitigate his style of play next season.

If RG3 continues to play his game as such, he will be much like the often injured Michael Vick that simply continued to be exposed to problematic punishment and injury.

I realize Redskins fans are ecstatic for actually drafting a QB with promise and for getting out of the NFC East basement this season.

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What you say about his style of play is very true. He must adapt his play to protect his knee. that said, he does NOT need to stop running altogether. Many a pocket passer has had his career ended via injury from hits in the pocket or on scrambles to evade the rush. He just needs to be smarter and realize that the ability to play the next down is more important than an extra couple yards.

As for the picture of RG III with his knee buckling. That is all the Cowboys fault; If they could have beaten a gimpy RG III the week before, then RG III Would have begun recovering from a less severe injury a week earlier...
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What you say about his style of play is very true. He must adapt his play to protect his knee. that said, he does NOT need to stop running altogether. Many a pocket passer has had his career ended via injury from hits in the pocket or on scrambles to evade the rush. He just needs to be smarter and realize that the ability to play the next down is more important than an extra couple yards.

As for the picture of RG III with his knee buckling. That is all the Cowboys fault; If they could have beaten a gimpy RG III the week before, then RG III Would have begun recovering from a less severe injury a week earlier...
I love the way RG3 runs around. He is exciting when he does that and I love that Shanny lets him do that. I hope he does it more this coming season.

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hey mansta54 I'm curious to know what you disagree with what shneek814 said..maybe the statement of i would like rg3 on the cowboys he was really on point..what was your beef?
I didn't say that I had a beef, I just said I was waiting for that type of post. He's entitled to say or post whatever he wishs. I just knew it was coming, not particularly from him but somebody on this board. Oh, and no I wouldn't want Bob on our team. I like Romo a lot. So, what's your beef?
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He won rookie of the year the day he was drafted.
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RG3 had a very good rookie season and played well with a solid running game something which certainly helped his cause.

What we will continue to see develop from defenses this offseason are complex attacks designed to shut down the pistol formation and read option approaches.

RG3 will not last long in the NFL in this style of play, as defensive players will unload on him outside of the pocket as evidenced this year.

The gimp knee is certainly no chimera and will become a significant factor that will certainly mitigate his style of play next season.

If RG3 continues to play his game as such, he will be much like the often injured Michael Vick that simply continued to be exposed to problematic punishment and injury.

I realize Redskins fans are ecstatic for actually drafting a QB with promise and for getting out of the NFC East basement this season.

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I always enjoy a post where the writer understands and uses the nuances of the English language to convey thought.

This was a pleasure to read, and I concur completely with your position.
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I always enjoy a post where the writer understands and uses the nuances of the English language to convey thought.

This was a pleasure to read, and I concur completely with your position.
I just like it when they don't spell ecstatic with an x
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Wilson, Morris, Griffin, then Luck. IMO.
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He won rookie of the year the day he was drafted.
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My only problem with "Bob" is that he grew up in Texas-a stinking BRONCOS fan!!!!
I hope the rest of the NFC was taking notes as to how the Ravens were defending Pumpernickel or whatever his name is. MIND THE GAP!!!
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I hope the rest of the NFC was taking notes as to how the Ravens were defending Pumpernickel or whatever his name is. MIND THE GAP!!!
He had 300 yards passing and 62 yards rushing - they didn't exactly shut him down
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What you say about his style of play is very true. He must adapt his play to protect his knee. that said, he does NOT need to stop running altogether. Many a pocket passer has had his career ended via injury from hits in the pocket or on scrambles to evade the rush. He just needs to be smarter and realize that the ability to play the next down is more important than an extra couple yards.

As for the picture of RG III with his knee buckling. That is all the Cowboys fault; If they could have beaten a gimpy RG III the week before, then RG III Would have begun recovering from a less severe injury a week earlier...
The real question is will RG3 be defiant as seen earlier this year with reference to absorbing these types of hits in the open field?

I personally do NOT think RG3 will change his approach regardless of his injury and this will in turn lead to the eventual rise of Cousins on the depth chart if not remedied either by coaching intervention or by RG3 in terms of maturation process.

If RG3 does adjust, it will be interesting to see how this will effect his play overall.
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