What if the Cowboys could have the OL of your choice

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by perrykemp

I thought I read that somewhere here on CZ. I see a reference to it on Wikipedia (clearly the authoritative guide to NFL info ):

"In his initial year at USC, Smith served as the back-up left offensive tackle behind Charles Brown, and appeared on special teams. He appeared in 10 games of the 2008 season. In his sophomore year, he became a starter at right tackle, appearing in every game of the season except for the 2009 Emerald Bowl due to academic ineligibility. He made 2009 All-Pac-10 honorable mention and CollegeFootballNews.com Sophomore All-American honorable mention.

[View Full Quote] In 2010, Smith competed with sophomore Matt Kalil for Brown's succession at left tackle, eventually losing out. He remained starting right tackle, and was first team All Pac-10. He also won the Morris Trophy award as the conference's top offensive lineman."

according to USC fans at the time we picked Smith they claimed they never had a competition at LT. I figured just like here the real experts are the fans on the boards. Silly me.

[LatinMind]

My ideal OL in 2013 would look like

LT Tyron Smith
LG Chance Warmack
C Mackenzey Bernadeau
RG Kevin Kowalski
RT Brennan Williams

[burmafrd]

Originally Posted by jterrell

Not sure if that team wins a division or not.

If you had 5 All-Pro OL last year (minus Spencer) they probably still dont win even this crappy division. Too many injuries on offense and defense at the other positions.

We need a RB that can take advantage of a good OL. Murray can... when healthy.

We need a defense that can allow us to run the ball. This defense wouldn't.
Too soft on the DL and at Safety. Depth at LB is a major concern given the recent health of our stud linebackers.

BS. that would be the greatest O line in football history. Tony sits in a rocking chair reading a book before passing. Murray has holes the size of semi trucks to run through. This team scores 50 points a game. On a bad day. And you claim it could not even win the division. Any excuse not to fix the O line.

[StanleySpadowski]

I believe that any OL issue Dallas had was more scheme related than talent related. Between terrible RB play, running the playclock to 0 where the DL beats the OL off the snap, poor FB/TE blocking and a schemes that left unaccounted for defenders, I'm not sure that 5 all pros on the OL give fans what they want.

Besides, a defense that creates turnovers and Dallas is an immediate Super Bowl contender.

[Rack Bauer]

Originally Posted by FiveRings

Why is every post on this board like "If Jerry cut off his finger and it sprouted into a position player of your choice, would you take it?"

The reasoning would make most sense as just "off season talk" but I feel like we always get this stuff during the season too. Can't we just talk about football, and realistically?

No one forced you to view and/or reply to this thread. There are plenty of other threads where "Realistic" football is being discussed.

[AbeBeta]

Originally Posted by xwalker

What if the Cowboys could have the OL of your choice, but no new players at any other positions (you can keep any Free Agents except Spencer and promote any Practice Squad players).

Assume that everyone including Ratliff, Austin, Church, Lee, Carter, etc.. are healthy for game 1.

Possible OLine:
LT Joe Thomas
LG Carl Nicks
OC Nick Mangold/Pouncey
Jari Evans
Tyron Smith

Would they Win the division?

I think you need a hard-nosed leader type to anchor the line. The guy in East that I've always been jealous of is Chris Snee. You get the sense that DL don't like to play against him. He isn't the best G in the league but he is in the top 10 or so. Plus he'll play whatever position you need him to

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by xwalker

What if the Cowboys could have the OL of your choice, but no new players at any other positions (you can keep any Free Agents except Spencer and promote any Practice Squad players).

Assume that everyone including Ratliff, Austin, Church, Lee, Carter, etc.. are healthy for game 1.

Possible OLine:
LT Joe Thomas
LG Carl Nicks
OC Nick Mangold/Pouncey
Jari Evans
Tyron Smith

Would they Win the division?

Originally Posted by perrykemp

Tyron wasn't even in the top half of NFL left tackles this season. I'd take Matt Kalil over Tyron.... Kalil beat Tyron out at USC too.

It's your choice. You can take Pee Wee Herman if that is who you want.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by xwalker

What if the Cowboys could have the OL of your choice, but no new players at any other positions (you can keep any Free Agents except Spencer and promote any Practice Squad players).

Assume that everyone including Ratliff, Austin, Church, Lee, Carter, etc.. are healthy for game 1.

Possible OLine:
LT Joe Thomas
LG Carl Nicks
OC Nick Mangold/Pouncey
Jari Evans
Tyron Smith

Would they Win the division?

Originally Posted by AbeBeta

I think you need a hard-nosed leader type to anchor the line. The guy in East that I've always been jealous of is Chris Snee. You get the sense that DL don't like to play against him. He isn't the best G in the league but he is in the top 10 or so. Plus he'll play whatever position you need him to

Your choice of OLine.

[Chocolate Lab]

Originally Posted by StanleySpadowski

I believe that any OL issue Dallas had was more scheme related than talent related. Between terrible RB play, running the playclock to 0 where the DL beats the OL off the snap, poor FB/TE blocking and a schemes that left unaccounted for defenders, I'm not sure that 5 all pros on the OL give fans what they want.

Thank you.

I do think there's a talent problem with our line, but it's not 100% talent like so many people want to claim. We could use better players of course, but as with most of the rest of our team, we're not getting the most out of the players we do have.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by ABQCOWBOY

To me, the real question here is, how important is the OL? Would you take whatever five knowing that you could not have Romo and would have to play with Orton? I.E., would the performance of the OL be so good that you could win with a QB like Orton as opposed to a QB like Romo? That, to me, is what this discussion would really be about. Where do you spend your money? Do you spend it on the OL or at an offensive skilled position?

The question is just about OLine.

[Erik_H]

Originally Posted by FiveRings

Why is every post on this board like "If Jerry cut off his finger and it sprouted into a position player of your choice, would you take it?"

The reasoning would make most sense as just "off season talk" but I feel like we always get this stuff during the season too. Can't we just talk about football, and realistically?

Well, it is the offseason. If you'd have raised this complaint during the season, it would have had a little more merit.

I don't remember much of these fantasy what if's during the season, but if there were a bunch of threads about it, it's pretty much a sign that we were disappointed in the current team and already looking forward.

[Erik_H]

Originally Posted by StanleySpadowski

I believe that any OL issue Dallas had was more scheme related than talent related. Between terrible RB play, running the playclock to 0 where the DL beats the OL off the snap, poor FB/TE blocking and a schemes that left unaccounted for defenders, I'm not sure that 5 all pros on the OL give fans what they want.

Besides, a defense that creates turnovers and Dallas is an immediate Super Bowl contender.

Good point and a tough pill to swallow. I think we may need to get used to having at least 3 of our current OL started back next year. Swapping out 4 in one year is a tough thing to do.

Good point about our D and turnovers also. We should be generating more turnovers with the talent we have right now. Let's hope the scheme change helps.

[xwalker]

Originally Posted by Rack Bauer

No one forced you to view and/or reply to this thread. There are plenty of other threads where "Realistic" football is being discussed.

This.^

Free Will
1: voluntary choice or decision <I do this of my own free will>

2: freedom of humans to make choices that are not determined by prior causes or by divine intervention

Originally Posted by FiveRings

Why is every post on this board like "If Jerry cut off his finger and it sprouted into a position player of your choice, would you take it?"

The reasoning would make most sense as just "off season talk" but I feel like we always get this stuff during the season too. Can't we just talk about football, and realistically?

There is a button titled [New Thread]. The button that you clicked is titled [Reply].

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[hra8700]

This is pretty ridiculous. If you replace 4 below average starters with 4 first team all pros for any position on any team they'd probably win their division. If you did it on our oline we'd likely be super bowl favorites.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Originally Posted by xwalker

The question is just about OLine.

I'm expanding the discussion.