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Old 02-05-2013   #1
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Concussions aren't a problem in the NFL. All these guys are just looking for a payday.

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The game is a safe game, the equipment is better," Sanders said on the NFL Network set. "I don't buy all these guys coming back with these concussions. I'm not buying all that. Half these guys are trying to make money off the deal. That's real talk. That's really how it is. I wish they'd be honest and tell the truth because it's keeping kids away from our game
Funny a guy who spent his entire career trying to avoid as much contact as he could would even make such a remark.
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I think it is a real problem, but the reality is that I don't feel bad for these players.

They're overcompensated for what they do already.

The fact that they choose to play as long as they do despite the risks entail that they care more about the money than they do their health. As a result, I feel it's illogical to have sympathy for them.
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I think it is a real problem, but the reality is that I don't feel bad for these players.

They're overcompensated for what they do already.

The fact that they choose to play as long as they do despite the risks entail that they care more about the money than they do their health. As a result, I feel it's illogical to have sympathy for them.
I feel bad for them in the aspect that they have these issues after football (I would not wish suffering on anyone that is just doing their job), but I have never once heard from anyone in their right mind that football is good for your long term health.

Like Ed Reed said, they "signed up for it".
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I don't think it is a new low, I just think it's ignorance.

Part of the problem is that if you could go back in a time machine and tell these guys that they would likely suffer brain damage they would never believe you or wouldn't care.

However, it should not prevent us from making people more aware from the problem and striving to make the controlled violence of the game as safe as we can within the limits of the game.







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I think it is a real problem, but the reality is that I don't feel bad for these players.

They're overcompensated for what they do already.

The fact that they choose to play as long as they do despite the risks entail that they care more about the money than they do their health. As a result, I feel it's illogical to have sympathy for them.


Soldiers face far worse dangers and for a fraction of what the players make.

I don't feel bad for them at all.
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You don't have to feel bad for NFL players, .. but the same risk is there for college and high school football players.
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To a certain degree, he's right. Many of the players in the lawsuit only joined to support those that actually need it and out of the remaining group, many are there just for a pay day. Courtney Brown comes to mind. His NF career was very short and I think other nagging injuries played a big role in that, not neccesarily concussions.

Now there are some players who need the help and support, but I do believe it's far less than the total number on the law suit.


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a) How does this guy have a job commenting on anything? b) Guy is a moron and c) I wish there was some kind of announcing Survivor island where if you say enough stupid things you just get voted off and we never have to hear your comments again d) Of course Deion doesn't know about concussions, he never hit anyone to get one.
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Soldiers face far worse dangers and for a fraction of what the players make.

I don't feel bad for them at all.
Yep. Same with Policemen and Firemen. Some jobs are dangerous. At least NFL players are well paid.
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a) How does this guy have a job commenting on anything? b) Guy is a moron and c) I wish there was some kind of announcing Survivor island where if you say enough stupid things you just get voted off and we never have to hear your comments again d) Of course Deion doesn't know about concussions, he never hit anyone to get one.


However, Deion could still be right on this one. And that does nothing to change what you posted as a, b, c, and d.
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I don't think it is a new low, I just think it's ignorance.

Part of the problem is that if you could go back in a time machine and tell these guys that they would likely suffer brain damage they would never believe you or wouldn't care.

However, it should not prevent us from making people more aware from the problem and striving to make the controlled violence of the game as safe as we can within the limits of the game.
They can help make the game as safe as they can for players of the future without paying off players from the past.

I feel bad for anyone who has suffered from injuries, but that doesn't mean I agree with them asking for money now.
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I do think its a little more than a coincidence that, as they try to make the league "safer," more and more guys are saying they have a bunch of problems. While I'm not going to sit here and say that every guy who gets a concussion is milking it, I think there is probably some level of truth to what Deion is saying.
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How many times have I gone to a football forum and read from the fans - take them out in order to win. "Them" being any good player on an opposite team that may make an impact on the game. How many times???

And also have noticed the winners of Super Bowl games lately being those that hit the hardest, and make no excuses. In many cases, cheap shots -- meant to not only hurt, but take a player out of a game.

I have no idea how to make changes to the game without it impacting what football is -- the game itself. Guess you really cannot. So, it is a tough question, with answers??? I do not have a clue.

Most of us that are real football fans want the game to be continued as it is, a tough game. But I really think some of the players that make a point of making cheap shots -- with a fine -- need to be made an example of. And we as fans should never express the opinion that the answer to winning is to take a player out of the game with a cheap shot.

There is no question that most players by the end of a season -- if they make it that far -- are banged up and in many cases their season, and perhaps their playing time is over. And I believe I read that a football player has a shorter life span than a "normal" person of about 5 years.

So yes, many players are well compensated for playing a game they love. Guess most of us would like that kind of career. But how many players actually reach that point where they have an extended period of playing time -- with the compensation??

One thing I do know, I can see in front of me a play and watch what happened. Was it just a hit, or was it a hit to injure. It is kind of like justice, I know it when I see it, but please do not ask me to put a definition on it.

As to answers, for me, not a clue. And how to fix it. But one thing for sure I know, fans of the game should not encourage or want that kind of play. Win the game on your talent. And cheap shots, or shots meant to hurt should be dealt with by the league.

Again, I have no clue. I certainly do not want to see the game itself turned into "touch" football. Would ruin the game. But the league needs to seriously evaluate certain hits and REALLY make a point of making someone pay the consequences for it. And we as fans certainly should not encourage it. Win on your merit, not at all costs. And yeah, one day someone is not going to come off the field -- maybe then.

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Welp, Deion works for the league now so what did you think he would say? Follow the dollars.
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I think it is a real problem, but the reality is that I don't feel bad for these players.

They're overcompensated for what they do already.

The fact that they choose to play as long as they do despite the risks entail that they care more about the money than they do their health. As a result, I feel it's illogical to have sympathy for them.
They aren't overcompensated. It's simple supply and demand for a rare skilled labor. Basic economics really.


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