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Old 02-05-2013   #16
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Rue, rue, rue...

I didn't understand that move. All they had to do was wait until the roster cut date and then put him on IR. Did they really need ALL 90 roster spots?
yeah that kind of makes me think he might have another injury or something and they really feel he is done
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yeah that kind of makes me think he might have another injury or something and they really feel he is done
Only Detroit thinks he's fine.


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Nagy severely sprained his ankle in training camp and required surgery. The injury was enough to sideline him for the season, but the Lions liked his potential and decided to stash him away on injured reserve.

Three months later, Nagy has made significant strides in his recovery and has joined his new team.

"He's out of his cast now," Lions coach Jim Schwartz said. "He was in a cast for six weeks, something like that, and couldn't really get around very well. He's from Cleveland, so he's local. He would come in every once in a while and get checked on, but he's been with us pretty steadily for about the last month or so, goes to our meetings. You don't see him out at practice, but does a good job of staying involved in our game plans, going to meetings. Now he's back to lifting and working out a little bit more, getting some treatments. For a while there was no treatment other than rest."

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A seventh-round pick out of Wisconsin, Nagy's release came as a surprise to most everyone last fall, though he said he was "honored (the Lions) thought that highly of me to really take me on for this whole year when they knew that I wouldn't be able to contribute."

"It was crazy because I went and I had surgery in Charlotte with Dr. (Robert) Anderson and I was on a plane back, talking with my agent, and he basically was kind of, 'Hey, you're going to probably be heading back to Dallas, that's what it's looking like,' " Nagy said. "I got on the plane, got off the plane, had like three messages, text messages saying congratulations. And this is me post-op surgery, so you can imagine I'm not all there.

"But it's a great opportunity. I'm fitting it well. It's real close to Cleveland where I'm from, so I think it's a great opportunity."
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That ends some rueage.

This is a team who is battling several major injuries to
key players including Pro Bowl talents like Lee, Austin, Jenkins, Murray,
Carter and Ratliff. Other key starters missing include Costa, Smith, Church and
Coleman. That is 11 key players - that's half the starting lineup. Yet we still went 8-8.
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play for the Lions: he's god AWFUL. CAn't run, can't block, can't stop himself from taking penalties. One of the worst guards in the league. (I live in Michigan so I'm subjected to LIons games.....I won't let my kids watch them as it is truly a form of child abuse)
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I don't think Peterman's case is anything like Arkin's. Arkin is (was?) a small-school developmental project who can't get on the field even with multiple injuries. Peterman was a top SEC player with questionable NFL athletic talent who was playing, but then sustained a terrible leg injury and the team gave up on him, probably because they weren't sure he'd ever be the same.

And besides, that was Parcells making that move. This is Jerry/Garrett.

Unfortunately, Arkin is probably more like James Marten. Simply can't play.
I really can't understand our failures with linemen, other than only drafting one in the first round. Whether they are from a big school or a small school, we can't seem to find any who can play well on this level ... or at least sustain it, in Free's case.

Some of it may be whoever we have in charge of evaluating them, but even that has changed some over the years, from Lacewell to Ireland to Ciskowski, through six head coaches and several OL coaches.
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I really can't understand our failures with linemen, other than only drafting one in the first round. Whether they are from a big school or a small school, we can't seem to find any who can play well on this level ... or at least sustain it, in Free's case.

Some of it may be whoever we have in charge of evaluating them, but even that has changed some over the years, from Lacewell to Ireland to Ciskowski, through six head coaches and several OL coaches.
I think Tyron Smith can play well in the NFL. Everyone knew he would take some lumps as he transitioned to the left side, but I feel he will hold down that LT spot for a decade with Dallas.
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I think Tyron Smith can play well in the NFL. Everyone knew he would take some lumps as he transitioned to the left side, but I feel he will hold down that LT spot for a decade with Dallas.
Yes, he was the first-round pick I mentioned. The only other picks we've succeeded with on the line (post JJ) were Flozell Adams and Andre Gurode, both second-round picks.

I was hopeful Free would break the curse on any linemen we've drafted lower than the second, but that hope has faded. (And as I mentioned in another thread, we have a less than 50 percent success rate even on linemen we've drafted in the second round since 1993.)
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
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Yes, he was the first-round pick I mentioned. The only other picks we've succeeded with on the line (post JJ) were Flozell Adams and Andre Gurode, both second-round picks.

I was hopeful Free would break the curse on any linemen we've drafted lower than the second, but that hope has faded. (And as I mentioned in another thread, we have a less than 50 percent success rate even on linemen we've drafted in the second round since 1993.)
You left out Larry Allen.
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You left out Larry Allen.
2nd rd O Line picks for the Boys have a higher rate of success then any lower round pick by far.

Of course the fact that Jerruh has only ever used 1 first on the O line is a telling thing in itself. No other team in the NFL over the last 23 years has used less than 5 I think.
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You left out Larry Allen.
Yes, I did. He's the third one I mentioned in the other thread. We've drafted four in that time period who did basically nothing for Dallas (Al Johnson, Shane Hannah, Solomon Page, Jacob Rogers).
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2nd rd O Line picks for the Boys have a higher rate of success then any lower round pick by far.
But it's still less than 50 percent. That's not very promising.

It's also why I'm for using the first-round pick on an offensive linemen. We seem to be better at picking later-round defensive linemen (Jay Ratliff, Jason Hatcher, Sean Lissemore, Chris Canty, Tyrone Crawford). Of course, our only good "DEs" are first-rounders Ware and Spencer, but considering we were looking for players who could transition to linebacker, I'm not sure how well we can do in the later rounds at that position.
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
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He and Doug Free would make the perfect pair.

What are the chances Jerruh brings him back stating the Cowboys regretted ever letting him go.
Jerry better not sit on this. Get on the phone and trade 2 first rounders to Detroit to ensure Peterson's homecoming.
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