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02-05-2013
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#16
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This would be another stupid move by Jerry no different then what he has done for his players throughout the years, extending them based on past production. At least the players he's done that for produced where JG hasn't as of yet.
Does he deserve it? No....at least not yet.
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02-05-2013
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#17
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Originally Posted by WoodysGirl
The issue I see is that while Jerry performed one of the most thorough coaching searches I'd seen prior to Chicago's search who I think brought in everyone who even sniffed the NFL, we still ended up with Wade Phillips.
If Garrett is fired, I really have no idea of what Jerry would be looking in a coach.
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That is what I have been saying all along. It's not so much that I think Garrett is the answer, but rather I'm worried about what so-called "answer" Jerry would bring in. Everyone assumes it will be Gruden or some other popular coach, but let's not forget that's it is Jerry who would make that decision
/reality
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02-05-2013
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#18
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Originally Posted by WoodysGirl
If Jones believes what he says, that he has a “good man” and the “right man,” then he should lock Garrett up for the foreseeable future. A move like that would show that Garrett is in charge and Jon Gruden isn’t walking through the Valley Ranch doors as anything more than a TV analyst.
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I see absolutely no reason why Jerry should extend Garrett right now. Garrett is under contract and has yet to prove himself worthy of a longer commitment. I really hope he succeeds, but with him still under contract, there is no need to worry about him beyond next season at least until he generates results.
/reality
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02-05-2013
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#19
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Save the Snow Leopard
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Originally Posted by Reality
I see absolutely no reason why Jerry should extend Garrett right now. Garrett is under contract and has yet to prove himself worthy of a longer commitment. I really hope he succeeds, but with him still under contract, there is no need to worry about him beyond next season at least until he generates results.
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I agree. Garrett has to improve this team and likely that means significant improvement esp the record. He's got a one year contract.
Did you know there are only 5000 Snow Leopards in the wild now and they are confined to Central Asia? However, the effective global population (those likely to reproduce) is less than half that number.
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02-05-2013
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#20
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The Actualist
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It is a good idea to extend RedJ with all the uncertainty surrounding the Head Coaching position, i.e. the chain of command for the Dallas Cowboys.
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02-05-2013
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#21
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Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
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Originally Posted by Hoofbite
What does it matter? Like Jerry won't fire him if he's sucking with a couple extra years on the contract?
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Exactly. It doesn't affect the cap for Jerry to give Garrett and extension then turn around and fire him.
To me, this is a nonissue.
"'Room' always makes me chuckle. That's irrelevant. What we have on a given day really doesn't relate to what you're ultimately going to have and how you're going to manage."
Stephen Jones on salary cap limitations
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02-06-2013
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#22
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Originally Posted by Reality
That is what I have been saying all along. It's not so much that I think Garrett is the answer, but rather I'm worried about what so-called "answer" Jerry would bring in. Everyone assumes it will be Gruden or some other popular coach, but let's not forget that's it is Jerry who would make that decision 
/reality
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So very true and so very scary! 
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02-06-2013
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#23
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Originally Posted by gimmesix
Exactly. It doesn't affect the cap for Jerry to give Garrett and extension then turn around and fire him.
To me, this is a nonissue.
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The only slight concern would be having to pay the guy after the fact maybe.
But, get just a single home playoff game the following year with a new coach and that money is covered multiple times over.
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02-06-2013
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#24
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I don't think that the author actually believes that Jerry is sold on Jason and unlike Murchison is not willing to commit to him unequivocally at this point. It's a bad comparison as others have pointed out, and looks like pure provocation.
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02-06-2013
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#25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reality
I see absolutely no reason why Jerry should extend Garrett right now. Garrett is under contract and has yet to prove himself worthy of a longer commitment. I really hope he succeeds, but with him still under contract, there is no need to worry about him beyond next season at least until he generates results.
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Yea, I dont agree with giving Garrett an extension either. What exactly has he done to earn an extension, serious question?
He has been the official HC for 2 seasons and he is 16-16 with no playoff appearances. How exactly does this qualify him for an extension?
I dont know about you guys, but in my business career, you usually have to earn a promotion or a new contract by being first in sales, you division being the most profitable, taking a new product from R&D to production the fastest, ect......
In other words, you have to do something to earn your promotion, raise, new contract, new parking space, whatever..........just showing up and "being average (like .500 in sports) usually does not cut it.
As the official head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, Jason Garrett is 16-16............"Its a Process of stacking good days"
2013 Prediction: "NO PLAYOFFS"
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02-06-2013
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#26
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Originally Posted by Beast_from_East
Yea, I dont agree with giving Garrett an extension either. What exactly has he done to earn an extension, serious question?
He has been the official HC for 2 seasons and he is 16-16 with no playoff appearances. How exactly does this qualify him for an extension?
I dont know about you guys, but in my business career, you usually have to earn a promotion or a new contract by being first in sales, you division being the most profitable, taking a new product from R&D to production the fastest, ect......
In other words, you have to do something to earn your promotion, raise, new contract, new parking space, whatever..........just showing up and "being average (like .500 in sports) usually does not cut it.
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8-8 this year despite a D absolutely ravaged by injuries is actually not bad. We were one of the top D's in the league before the injuries started coming, and when they did and you're forced to start a bunch of no-names and journeymen-types like Poppinga and Peprah and Moore, it'd be hard for any D to bear up. On O we racked up a lot of yardage despite a garbage OL and non-existent running game. Have to put things in proper perspective.

My favorite hobby - watching Mustangs fall behind in the rearview mirror of my '01 C5.
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02-06-2013
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#27
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Originally Posted by Kristen82
8-8 this year despite a D absolutely ravaged by injuries is actually not bad. We were one of the top D's in the league before the injuries started coming, and when they did and you're forced to start a bunch of no-names and journeymen-types like Poppinga and Peprah and Moore, it'd be hard for any D to bear up. On O we racked up a lot of yardage despite a garbage OL and non-existent running game. Have to put things in proper perspective.
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We were also 8-8 last year.
No way we extend JG now, that's decision would be up there Jerry's decisions like extending Ratliff, Austin, Free, Galloway trade, Roy Williams trade, Q carter...need I go in?
JG is under contract and this is his opportunity to prove he's deserving of an extension. If he turns it around Jerry will reward him in nicely. If not, we will be looking for a new HC.
For the record, I really hope he succeeds. I don't want to see the team completely rebuild.
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02-06-2013
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#28
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristen82
8-8 this year despite a D absolutely ravaged by injuries is actually not bad. We were one of the top D's in the league before the injuries started coming, and when they did and you're forced to start a bunch of no-names and journeymen-types like Poppinga and Peprah and Moore, it'd be hard for any D to bear up. On O we racked up a lot of yardage despite a garbage OL and non-existent running game. Have to put things in proper perspective.
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Proper perspective would include the lack of points in relation to yards, something that has been a common theme with Garrett. Yards are great but if you aren't scoring, you aren't winning.
If the defense had been the sole reason for the teams failures for the last couple years, I would likely be on board with an extension.
But this offense has been just as guilty as the defense over the years and they are likely one of the most inconsistent boom or bust units in the league and they are penalty or turnover prone.
Garrett could have went hard at a quality OL last year but didn't. After 6 years as OC and two offseasons as the HC, the responsibility for a horrid OL needs to start finding it's way to Jason who when hired was backed by Jerry's comments about nobody being on the roster without Jason's approval.
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02-06-2013
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#29
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He will
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