Talkin Cowboys 2/6

[DWAREZ]

Originally Posted by DBOY3141

Broddus didn't say anything about Free? Wonder why? He normally does. I guess we will know about him in the next couple of days.

I'm a UNC fan and love Cooper. #18 may be a little high, but I would do it if I couldn't trade back a few spots to get another pick. Gotta fix the OL.

Actually Broaddus said he thinks they are going to unload Doug Free.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by InmanRoshi

And as far as I'm concerned, RB is a pretty huge need.

Yeah, it's a significant need, too.

[DWAREZ]

A caller said "Mickey we know you are Jerry's BOY", the Mickaroo was definitely not pleased!

[Woods]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

Backup is a need. But its not a huge need. You cant really judge whats in Dallas at this point in time because anybody with eyes could see that Dallas mismanaged its running attack big time. The system was just flawed and worked against them. You cant have the success you had in the passing game and the failure at running and say the OL is the problem. It wasnt perfect but its not a failure. The run game system was the failure.

When you have a 4900 yrd passer and almost 3 1000 yrd receivers your OL isnt a failure.

If the Cowboys think Lacy is a "special" type of back, I wouldn't be against using a 2nd rounder. The problem is that Murray can't be counted on unfortunately. Two consecutive years he's been injured. If Lacy is clearly the best guy on the board, and we do need players at RB, I think it's o.k.

Is it my first choice? No. Like you, I prefer OL, Safety, and DL. But if Lacy is the best guy, and by a reasonable margin, I would take him.

[SDCowboy85]

Do the people that keep talking about moving around Romo's money forget he's on the last year of an already backloaded contract? There's not really anywhere to move it anymore. They pretty much have to give him a new contract to push his money back.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by Woods

If the Cowboys think Lacy is a "special" type of back, I wouldn't be against using a 2nd rounder. The problem is that Murray can't be counted on unfortunately. Two consecutive years he's been injured. If Lacy is clearly the best guy on the board, and we do need players at RB, I think it's o.k.

Is it my first choice? No. Like you, I prefer OL, Safety, and DL. But if Lacy is the best guy, and by a reasonable margin, I would take him.

OK i agree with you saying he's been injured but to say he cant be counted on. Im not buying it. You cant guess injuries. Lacy could come in and be injured on his first carry. They happen.

Dallas needs too many starters to be worried about a backup RB.

[Zimmy Lives]

Originally Posted by DWAREZ

Actually Broaddus said he thinks they are going to unload Doug Free.

Everybody seems to be of this opinion.

It looks like tackle becomes their #1 priority this off-season.

[LatinMind]

Originally Posted by SDCowboy85

Do the people that keep talking about moving around Romo's money forget he's on the last year of an already backloaded contract? There's not really anywhere to move it anymore. They pretty much have to give him a new contract to push his money back.

Thats why they will extend him. And that money will be pushed back into the extended yrs.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think I'd rather have Taylor.

[Zimmy Lives]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

Thats why they will extend him. And that money will be pushed back into the extended yrs.

Extending him would be the right move as long as they are committed to providing him with a solid line. This off-season will be interesting.

[Woods]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

OK i agree with you saying he's been injured but to say he cant be counted on. Im not buying it. You cant guess injuries. Lacy could come in and be injured on his first carry. They happen.

Dallas needs too many starters to be worried about a backup RB.

What I would do is the following,

Assuming Free is cut, I'd bring in a vet to compete against him. I think the Cowboys like Parnell's upside, and I don't think they prefer to use a 1st rounder on an OT since they think that Parnell may be able to man that spot.

I'd look to pick up a versatile player in the draft who can play either OC or OG. Let him compete against Berny, Livings, Costa, etc. But you should be able to find this guy anywhere from Round 1 to Round 3.

So, if you really like Lacy, and think that he can add something to your running game, give you consistency at the position, I don't think there's anything wrong with taking him.

That said, my guess is that we'll probably go Safety or OL there. And I don't have a problem with that. I just wouldn't exclude a RB if the staff really thinks highly of him.

[5Stars]

Great! Another running back. Where is he going to run too?

I find it funny that some posters say finding running backs in later rounds is easy, then turn around and want to spend a 2nd on another one?

The Cowboys need lineman, on both sides of the ball, period! A great running back cannot make his own holes if nothing is there.

I guess I'm to ignorant to understand why the Cowboys don't invest big/good money on the trenches, because that has been the flaw for the Cowboys.

Romo can't wait for a receive to come open, Murray cannot find any holes to run through, the defensive line lets runners get to the second level all the time and they can't rush the passer.

So, to fix that, lets draft a running back in the 2nd...yeah! That's the ticket!

[theebs]

Originally Posted by DWAREZ

A caller said "Mickey we know you are Jerry's BOY", the Mickaroo was definitely not pleased!

That guy was a complete hillbilly moron and Mickey basically made a joke out of his entire call.

I imagine most of the people on the Internet who call Mickey things like Jerrys boy would get into a bind with Mickey because they all say a lot of dumb things.

That call was the dumb hillbilly fan In a nutshell.

And Mickey did not say Garrett had his legs cut out, latin mind misunderstood he said that is the perception just like his article the other day.

The best part of the whole show was broaddus calling rob Ryan dumb. They were talking about Payton hiring him and Bryan said not so fast, said he would love to see rob Ryan explain defense to Sean if Payton was asking him what he would do in different scenarios. Mickey chuckled and broaddus continued that eberflus was the brain and rob was just calling plays.

Pretty direct comments to me.

the week of the final game Bryan mentioned if we lost there would be big changes and he wanted to get in to detail and stopped. It must have been he knew about all that rob Ryan missing meetings stuff....

[Gaede]

Originally Posted by Idgit

I think he'd be a *great* pick in the 2nd. I don't care what position needs we've got.

I agree. I've wanted that type of RB since Emmitt.

Can we afford to roll with Murray again, if losing with him has such a dramatic effect on our season?

RB is a need because we might, realistically, need a starter.

[InmanRoshi]

Originally Posted by LatinMind

Backup is a need. But its not a huge need. You cant really judge whats in Dallas at this point in time because anybody with eyes could see that Dallas mismanaged its running attack big time. The system was just flawed and worked against them. You cant have the success you had in the passing game and the failure at running and say the OL is the problem. It wasnt perfect but its not a failure. The run game system was the failure. .

Well, that happens when your premiere RB misses almost the entire season with a serious toe injury (and as far as I'm concerned he wasn't healthy when he came back). And then your backup, who's supposed to be a "speed guy" is fat and slow and a shell of his former self.

I'm just of the belief that RBs are a higher priority in the modern NFL, as good running offensive lines get fewer and fewer. Colleges simply aren't putting out great run blocking offensive linemen. They play their entire careers in college in 2 point stances in spread offenses and aren't polished at firing off the ball and moving people off the line of scrimmage. Couple that with new rule changes in the NFL CBA that prevents teams from getting in the practice reps, and I see a lot of awful run blocking NFL offensive lines. You need RBs who can mask the flaws in your OL. When I look at the great running games in the NFL, it's because they have RBs who make their OLs look good. The Vikings OL looks great when Adrian Peterson is running behind them, and they look like garbage when Toby Gerhert is running for 3.1 ypc behind them. Doug Martin made that Tampa Bay OL, not vice versa ... especially considering they lost Nick and Joseph for virtually the entire year to injury.