Nate Newton Speaks

[rocyaice]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

If, if if...but that didn't happen at all.

And that is the point.

All the ifs ands or buts don't mean squat.

Yea but you're missing his point. In the NFL this league comes down to 1 or 2 plays. 49ers lost the Super Bowl on Sunday because of 1 or 2 plays. That's the NFL. "IF" the Cowboys make these 1 or 2 plays they would've been in the playoffs. The Cowboys need to figure out how to start making these 1 or 2 plays that keep costing them games.

[TwoDeep3]

I guess after being on messageboards about this team since the 90s I'd know better than to be amazed at fans who believe they know more than players, but I am still shocked.

If for no other reason than the player knows EXACTLY what it takes to play this sport at this level. Including in the case of Newton, what it takes to play at a championship level.

But the little asides come along about pot and if this and if that.

And in all of this, these "excuses" why the player is wrong are coming from people who watch a sport on TV.

Unless you spent the night at a Holiday Inn last night, all your excuses aren't worth the bandwidth.

[Idgit]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

I guess after being on messageboards about this team since the 90s I'd know better than to be amazed at fans who believe they know more than players, but I am still shocked.

If for no other reason than the player knows EXACTLY what it takes to play this sport at this level. Including in the case of Newton, what it takes to play at a championship level.

But the little asides come along about pot and if this and if that.

And in all of this, these "excuses" why the player is wrong are coming from people who watch a sport on TV.

Unless you spent the night at a Holiday Inn last night, all your excuses aren't worth the bandwidth.

And your take on Jason Garrett after reading the Sean Lee quote in my sig again, for the record?

[TwoDeep3]

Originally Posted by Idgit

And your take on Jason Garrett after reading the Sean Lee quote in my sig again, for the record?

I would say he knows more than I do.

But then if you asked him five years ago what he thought about JoePa, what do you believe his reply would be?

Garrett being the only one is a little heady. I won't argue with him.

I would love to see what either Harbaugh would do with this franchise.

[PJTHEDOORS]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

Yes, you are right. What does a three time Super Bowl guard know about the sport over an internet fan.

Nate isn't exactly Einstein between the ears either.

[TwoDeep3]

Originally Posted by PJTHEDOORS

Nate isn't exactly Einstein between the ears either.

Ignorant is a term some seem to feel is derisive. They see that as someone calling them stupid.

In fact ignorant means lack of knowledge or facts about an issue. I would venture 99.9 percent of this board are ignorant of quantum mechanics.

I would also say that compared to Newton, the same percentage would be considered ignorant about professional football.

You may spout off (the royal you) about five technique and getting up under the pads, and all that football sounding jargon. But the truth is he has studied this game from a position none of us have.

So compared to Newton all of us would be ignorant.

But don't allow me injecting the truth interfere with hubris.

[bbailey423]

I find it COMICAL all the fans who trash ex-players when they say something NEGATIVE about the Cowboys. Keep in mind MOST of the players saying things are EX Cowboys who have actually won Super Bowls. At the end of the day the results speak for themselves. At this point....NOTHING about this organization is worth defending.

We keep aging players who have not ever won anything.

We were the only team not to eclipse 10 points in the first half of a game this season.

We hired a coach who had never been a head coach OR play caller AT ANY LEVEL....and asked him to be a first time Head Coach AND play caller at the HIGHEST LEVEL for the most scrutinized sports franchise in the US. On a side note, this head coach turned down a chance to be the Head Coach for the Ravens, so the Ravens hire Harbaugh....who btw just won the Super Bowl, and in his 5 years as the head coach of the Ravens...they have made the playoffs every year! So to the Ravens....I say you owe us won....we did you a favor!

We sign backup OL from losing teams and START them in Dallas

The head coach...I mean owner...demands that a fat, injured, out of shape Felix Jones returns kicks....until he finally costs us a game...just to "get something out of" his favorite pet former 1st round pick

We replace last year's 3rd WR Laurent Robinson 11 TDs, with Kevin Ogletree....keep in mind Robinson got of his couch last summer and beat out Ogletree...a guy that already had been in Dallas 3 years

I could go on and on..but the RESULTS speak for themselves....and there is NOTHING about the current state of the Cowboys that is defensible....and these former players are BEYOND frustrated....like SOME of the fans on this board who are no longer drinking the kool aid. And before the "hey look how many catches Witten had" or "DeMarcus Ware is a 1st ballot HOFer" or "we have the BEST pair of starting WRs in the NFL"....before that crowd chimes in....I will counter that those sound like cheer sheets that Jerry Jones passes out as fans enter the stadium....or maybe he includes them with the letter he sends when it is time to renew your season tickets...because they certainly have had NOTHING to do with winning!

[jnday]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

I guess after being on messageboards about this team since the 90s I'd know better than to be amazed at fans who believe they know more than players, but I am still shocked.

If for no other reason than the player knows EXACTLY what it takes to play this sport at this level. Including in the case of Newton, what it takes to play at a championship level.

But the little asides come along about pot and if this and if that.

And in all of this, these "excuses" why the player is wrong are coming from people who watch a sport on TV.

Unless you spent the night at a Holiday Inn last night, all your excuses aren't worth the bandwidth.

It is the usual flogging that comes when anybody points out problems on this team. I have read insults aimed at Nate, Drew and even Troy for giving honest opinions about this team. This board must be full of former NFL players that was part of Super Bowl teams. The points that Nate brings up are not new. Other former Cowboys have noticed the same problem.

[Bluestang]

Maybe the attitude "problem" stems from the we CBA rules and player safety rules.

[InmanRoshi]

I love all this voodoo hocus pocus "attitude" stuff. It's so magical. All last offseason I had to listen to about this magical "attitude" that the Giants had, but little did I know that n sometime over the offseason the magical "attitude" fairy came in the middle of the night and zapped away all their magical "attitude" powers for 2012, in which they folded down the stretch and completely no-showed and made gutless appearances for critical games like the Atlanta blowout/shutout.

Maybe it was just that the really Giants got hot for a 4 game stretch and/or their opponents made mistakes to beat themselves (did the Ravens attitude cause Rahim Moore to whiff on an easy INT?) in a single elimination tournament which randomness is nurtured.

Nah, gotta be "attitude". Curse you "attitude" fairy!!!! Why must you be so fickle!!!!

In the meantime our team (who doesn't have "attitude") and the Ravens (who do have "attitude") squared off this season, and our atttitude depleated team completely pushed around the Ravens attitude ample team in the trenches on both sides of the ball (Dallas has 220+ yards rushing, compared to the Ravens 86). Turns out that game didn't come down to "attitude", it came down bad special teams play and poor clock management.

[CATCH17]

Originally Posted by CyberB0b

They could have lost a couple of close ones, too. Cincy and Pitt come to mind. This team just isn't very good.

Jerry keeps hanging on to the fact that the Giants squeaked in the playoffs and won two Super Bowls and uses that as a justification for being mediocre. When you don't demand greatness from the top to the bottom, you won't get it.



Baltimore has only been around since 1996. They have more Super Bowl wins than we have playoff wins. The man responsible for that is still in the driver's seat.

Listen.. Jerry sucks. But it doesn't mean he can't stumble into a good situation like he did with Jimmy Johnson again.

He's just gotta quit hiring guys that aren't ready for this kind of job.

A guy like Sean Payton is out there and he laughs at the thought of paying the guy 8 mill a year. He needs to value coaching more instead of what Larry Lacewell and Barry Switzer think.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by Idgit

If you want to use the word 'soft' to mean mistake prone, then I guess you're right. That's not the normal use of that descriptor, though.

This team is well conditioned, and they play hard. They beat themselves with the mistakes.

"Soft" is used quite often to describe people that can't function under stress in my region of the country. Of course, you also have physicsl softness. A very intelligent person can seem dumb in certain regions of the country due to their lack of knowledge about local word usage.

[zrinkill]

Originally Posted by TwoDeep3

Nate - Nope, they couldn't. And here is why.

The 9ers and the Ravens have something Dallas does not have. They have a team attitude that says they are going to get it done. When Ed Reed lined up and covered - fill in the blank - he knew he was going to get it done.

So in Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin, Emmitt Smith,and Nate Newtons careers, they only had that attitude 3 of the years they played.

Right Nate?

[tyke1doe]

Originally Posted by SDCowboy85

To say this team could not have gotten 1-2 more wins is idiotic.

Well, why didn't they?

The reality is if they could have gotten 1-2 more wins, they would have. They didn't so they couldn't.

[jnday]

Originally Posted by CATCH17

Listen.. Jerry sucks. But it doesn't mean he can't stumble into a good situation like he did with Jimmy Johnson again.

He's just gotta quit hiring guys that aren't ready for this kind of job.

A guy like Sean Payton is out there and he laughs at the thought of paying the guy 8 mill a year. He needs to value coaching more instead of what Larry Lacewell and Barry Switzer think.

The priorities of the GM needs to change. There is no doubt about it. Coaching is one area that he needs to take a look at, along with the usual such as the trenches. I think his priorities not only need to change, but have to change if this team has any hope to be regular Super Bowl contenders. Having a location to buy women's underwear at Cowboys Stadium should take a back seat to trench play or safety play. On second thought, I am sure that panties and bras would be much more important to me than a OG if I wore and needed them. Jerry gives us what we need (underwear), not what we want ( a winning team). He is considerate.