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Old 02-06-2013   #61
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I did read the entire post. I do think romo is a good qb, i just don't think he performs well under pressure and makes too many bone headed decisions. Oline? Ours isnt good but the excuse is getting old!
It's not an excuse. It's the flat out freaking truth. Our OL sucks.

And NO QB can "perform under pressure" unless they also have someone else performing under pressure with them (ie a QB can't freaking block for himself, make the throws and catch the freaking ball all at the same time). OTHER players HAVE to step up as well as the QB (ex that Tyrese or whatever his name is making that catch vs the pats in the superbowl, etc..).

Boldin was clutch along with Flacco.

Rice was clutch with Montana/Young.

Eli had a few clutch catches by his WR's.

And the list goes on.

No QB can be "clutch" on his own. There's always someone blocking for him, running for him, and catching his passes.
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Old 02-06-2013   #62
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Joe flacco doesn't resign with the ravens. Would you throw 20 million a year at him ???

I'm a romo fan and want him here. But I wanted to see others opinions if by some miracle flacco left the ravens
can we make a rule to stop debating weather Romo is better than Super Bowl winning QBs. This nonsense started few years ago with Eli and now nobody even entertains that discussion anymore. So I guess its Flacco turn now.

Here is an idea...lets wait until Romo advances his team into second round of playoffs. Then we can remotely start to even have this discussion.
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Old 02-06-2013   #63
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It's not an excuse. It's the flat out freaking truth. Our OL sucks.

No QB can be "clutch" on his own. There's always someone blocking for him, running for him, and catching his passes.
Our oline has its issues as does every teams oline but when the oline is playing well and the opportunity presents itself for romo to make a key play in a big game (win or go home type) time and time again he has been the main reason for the missed opportunity (his latest missed opportunity - the final int against the skins).
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Our oline has its issues as does every teams oline but when the oline is playing well and the opportunity presents itself for romo to make a key play in a big game (win or go home type) time and time again he has been the main reason for the missed opportunity (his latest missed opportunity - the final int against the skins).
Can't believe you just used the WASHINGTON game as an exampe for the oline playing well and Romo failing.
The reasons that play happened were (and this is not debatable) BY FAR 1) the line let a guy blow right past them to get in Romo's face and then 2) Romo made a bad play under extreme duress.

That has to be the worst support for an argument I've seen in a long time! They should ban you for 2-3 days right there.
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Can't believe you just used the WASHINGTON game as an exampe for the oline playing well and Romo failing.
The reasons that play happened were (and this is not debatable) BY FAR 1) the line let a guy blow right past them to get in Romo's face and then 2) Romo made a bad play under extreme duress.

That has to be the worst support for an argument I've seen in a long time! They should ban you for 2-3 days right there.
Well the opportunity to make a play was there, if it was a high risk throw which he could not make he could have just thrown the ball away after all it was only 1st or 2nd down. The oline did give him opportunities in that game. Its what i was refering to about his poor decision making. Seems like hes more prone to panicing under duress in the big games. Live to play another down and get better protection on the next play.
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Flacco will resign in Baltimore. But he's a horrible fit for Dallas because he isn't a very good regular season QB which would make Dallas's situation even worse. We probably aren't any more than a 3 or 4 win team without Romo like it or not. If Flacco ever plays the regular season like he has the last few playoffs then he's an MVP candidate.
True, but Flacco wouldn't have thrown that INT against Washington to give the game away.
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Old 02-07-2013   #67
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I like GB's strategy too, but unless we somehow start acquiring more draft picks we can't afford to emulate them. We don't have the luxury of numerous draft picks to take multiple QBs in the same draft the way GB did in 08... or 09? I can't remember. Whenever Flynn and Brohm came into the league.
I can't remember the coach/front office that said it... 'Draft a QB every year', I don't think it was someone from GB however, perhaps NE ?
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People keep posting that the raven D is so fantastic, but their D was kind of bad in the playoffs, gave up something like 420 yards per game. Gave up the most yards by any Super Bowl winning team ever. But to answer the question, yea, I'd give up romo for a lot less than Flacco
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It's not an excuse. It's the flat out freaking truth. Our OL sucks.

And NO QB can "perform under pressure" unless they also have someone else performing under pressure with them (ie a QB can't freaking block for himself, make the throws and catch the freaking ball all at the same time). OTHER players HAVE to step up as well as the QB (ex that Tyrese or whatever his name is making that catch vs the pats in the superbowl, etc..).

Boldin was clutch along with Flacco.

Rice was clutch with Montana/Young.

Eli had a few clutch catches by his WR's.

And the list goes on.

No QB can be "clutch" on his own. There's always someone blocking for him, running for him, and catching his passes.

Nice try but a lot of Romos errors are unforced... Including a couple picks in that wasington game.
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True, but Flacco wouldn't have thrown that INT against Washington to give the game away.
No, he could take a sack, punt & wait for his defense to get the ball back.

Unfortunately, our QB doesn't have that luxury
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No, he could take a sack, punt & wait for his defense to get the ball back.

Unfortunately, our QB doesn't have that luxury
He could do that actually...
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I'll say it again, they gave up 31 points to San Fran, and San Fran's defense gave up 34. What defense? Here are the facts. The fact is, Baltimore's defense gave up 31 & 35 points in the playoffs.
Gave up 29 or more points 4 times during the season, we gave up 29 or more 6, with a ton of injures. Don't blame the defense, blame our low-life quarterback.
The point is, Flaco would of never made it to the playoffs on this team. I'm not comparing the two, as I think they are interchangable, but Flaco in Dallas would of had the same results, no playoffs this year. More than likely he would of had a worse regular season record. There is no debating that Baltimores O-line is better than ours, that combined with Flaco's regular season play would equal sitting at home and having certain posters talking about how we need to get rid of him if he were here.
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umm is this a trick question? lol Obviously u would Flacco is great and has a laser arm. Flacco is clutch. Flacco threw 11 tds to zero picks in playoffs on road. lol. Cmon now
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True, but Flacco wouldn't have thrown that INT against Washington to give the game away.
I don't know how you figure that, since 2008 Tony has thrown 3 more INT's than Joe, however he's also thrown 20 more TD's and their comp % and QB rating are not even in the same ballpark. You put the two behind the same Oline, and Joe is waiting for his unemployment check on the 1st of the month.
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I don't know how you figure that, since 2008 Tony has thrown 3 more INT's than Joe, however he's also thrown 20 more TD's and their comp % and QB rating are not even in the same ballpark. You put the two behind the same Oline, and Joe is waiting for his unemployment check on the 1st of the month.
yeah, he was way off base with that. On a per attempt basis, Romo throws far less picks than Flacco.
It is fair to tip your cap to Falcco for theat hge 3-game run though. But even in the playoffs over his career, he's a had a ton of ints.
Befoe this posteseason, he had 8 TDs and 8 picks in the post season.
Romo has 4 TDs and 2 picks.
But Flacco ruled this post season
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